A view on Our Troops in Iraq

#1
picked this up on David Hackworths site www.hackworth.com

http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/...mmand=viewone&op=t&id=96&rnd=83.9720066835416

According to Hackworth we brits aint been tough enough, staying in our bases leaving the Insurgents to play thier games.

one of the parting comments is 'And if the Brits, Poles and Italians would rather leave than take the initiative, the consensus is: let them pack their coolers, teapots and beach umbrellas and go home!'

this is written by Americas most decorated living soldier.

any thoughts?
 
#2
ging-gwar said:
picked this up on David Hackworths site www.hackworth.com

http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/...mmand=viewone&op=t&id=96&rnd=83.9720066835416

According to Hackworth we brits aint been tough enough, staying in our bases leaving the Insurgents to play thier games.

one of the parting comments is 'And if the Brits, Poles and Italians would rather leave than take the initiative, the consensus is: let them pack their coolers, teapots and beach umbrellas and go home!'

this is written by Americas most decorated living soldier.

any thoughts?
The terms dick and head come to mind. That's before I've even read the article, so not being judgemental.
 
#3
Proves that gongs don't equal smarts 8O

If memory serves me Hack came back from Nam and became an anti-establishment mouth piece and moved to Oz in protest :? maybe why he didn't mention them in his diatribe
 
#4
The supposed conversations in Hackworth's article sound as if they only occurred in his own head. For example, this from a senior British officer:
We stay back until they become very bold and over-extend themselves. Then we jump out, counterattack and drive them back.
:roll:
This Hackworth is still blamed by many on the other side of the Atlantic for causing the suicide of Admiral Boorda.
"Hackworth's motives in going after Boorda," a senior Army officer told me, "are an open book. He left the Army as a disgraced, angry man convinced that he had been robbed of a four-star future that he assumed was his."
http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=634

Hackworth pursued Boorda over 'V' pins the admiral had on his medals. It turned out later that Hackworth had worn a Ranger tab and an 'extra' Distinguished Flying Cross - easy mistake to make - to which he was not entitled. :twisted:

http://www.cnn.com/US/9705/16/hackworth/

The question is, how much damage has this hypocrite done to the coalition at this pivotal point.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
#5
Well they won't be needing the Black Watch then. In fact, stuff 'em, let them do it by themselves if they want, ungrateful b'stards.
 
#6
No surprise that the well-named Hackworth's article is full of errors and sloppy research.

eg implying that the small Japanese contingent are more robust than the effete teadrinking Brits etc - I am sure the Japanese are fine people, but they are protected by the Dutch (funny they escape a mention) and are constitutionally forbidden from firing except in self-defence.

There are enough people in UK defence circles who are well aware of the Admiral Boorda tragedy that hopefully Hackworth's latest unpleasant foolishness will not be taken too seriously here. It will be reported in Italy and Poland, however, and is not going to help support for the campaign in those countries.
 
#7
You can imagine how the Italian and Polish will take insults like these. How much do you reckon the Mafia will take for a contract on him, or will they just do it for free.
 
#12
tomahawk6 said:
Hackworth is in the tank for Kerry. He never misses a chance to a take a swipe at the administration.
No surprise there. Maybe he hopes Britain, the Italians and Polish will all pack it in before 2 Nov
 
#14
Maybe the has-been has not heard of the PWRR.

There is a feedback link at the bottom of the article.....
 
#16
Bravo_Bravo said:
Maybe the has-been has not heard of the PWRR.

There is a feedback link at the bottom of the article.....
well said, if this wasn't mentioned i was going, what was it they racked up, over 650 contacts with the insurgents, in one of the most dangerous postings in Iraq, think it stood at 2 killed 43 wounded, i belive they have at leats one MC, Sgt Kelly, and there may be more!!!!

good job done lads and welcome home again,
 
#17
I'm surprised this Hackworth chap hasn't been picked up by Channel 4 as their military expert.

he sounds very much like a fully signed up member of the pretenious self -righteous brigade!
 
#18
"Troops back from long, hard combat"

story from the much-maligned Guardian on the return of PWRR

quotes this from 'Soldier':

"I've stood before a company of soldiers who have the same haunted gaze as soldiers from the second world war and Korean war because they've been subjected to the most extraordinary events which to a large degree have gone unreported," Brigadier Andrew Kennett, commander of the 1st Mechanised Brigade, told Soldier magazine.

He added, referring to the entire brigade, including the First Battalion, the Cheshire Regiment: "We are not trying to say we've experienced world war three but on the other hand I don't think anyone on Op Telic 1 (the initial invasion of Iraq) or the first Gulf war had the kind of fighting that my soldiers have faced".
Welcome home, lads. Well done, 1 Mech Bde.

full story at http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1336009,00.html
 
#20
They fired more rounds than the entire British Army did in GW2... plus, these are the guys that had a platoon defending CIMIC house against 500 Mahdi Insurgents who attacked repeatedly in up to Company strength - getting as far as the building itself before being killed/beaten off...

Call me cynical but if that had been Charlie Coy 7/6945 inf or whatever, Hollywood would have been beating a path to the COs door.

Thats not the way we do things.
 

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