A Petition - Maximum automatic penalties for damaging Military Memorials

Progress?

“The desecration of these sites is contemptible and there is no government, no minister, no member of this House who would think anything else and therefore, the Government will undoubtedly, earnestly consider any proposals that are made.”

I do like the wording; 'would' rather than 'should'. The weaselling to come from Opposition benches will be entertaining.
 
Signed.
In all seriousness, is there any scope for the government to ask the military to guard military statues?
I should hope not, they have better things to do.
 
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If any scrote is arrested and convicted for damaging ANY War memorial, whatever sentence is handed down by the judge (and it should be a judge who has served in the military), that sentence should be served at MCTC Colchester.
I'm sure that after prolonged beastings and very little sleep that the little darlings will see the error of their ways and tell others that ******* about with War memorials is a very bad idea.
 
If any scrote is arrested and convicted for damaging ANY War memorial, whatever sentence is handed down by the judge (and it should be a judge who has served in the military), that sentence should be served at MCTC Colchester.
I'm sure that after prolonged beastings and very little sleep that the little darlings will see the error of their ways and tell others that ******* about with War memorials is a very bad idea.
You have so very strange fantasies. No least how you think military detainees are treated.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
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It seems to be rapidly attracting attention too. Hopefully it'll make the useless cúnts in parliament think about taking some actual action.
It might actually make them think that the majority opinion in this country isn't on the side of the protesters.
There’s already legislation for this, it would be better to have a petition requiring the police to uphold the law any failures to do so should see senior Police officers charged with misconduct in public office and reparations for damages coming out the Police budget.
Unfortunately, even if enacted, it has to be enforced to work.

We have just witnessed our Police unwilling to enforce existing law, to maintain order.
And therein is a point. The legislation exists but chief constables are abdicating their responsibility to do something about these people. Note that the 'Far Right' football fans are moved on. There's a part of me that asks why; if these guys are happy to take on giving vandals a good shoeing then let them. It's in reality what the police ought to be doing.

The people doing the vandalism, meanwhile, are not only allowed to get on with it, they also turn on the police. The police's policy should not be one of restraint. The police's policy should be one of "Try it on and you'll come off second best".

This is another prime example of where those in senior positions are completely out of touch with public opinion on this; and how a cosmopolitan national broadcaster is abetting the miscreants.
You're assuming the Police grab them in the first place.

Courts can't hammer those not stood in front of them.
Film them and make it clear that “We will be calling on you”.
Progress?

Why stop at war memorials? Anything of historical relevance should be protected.

There was a referendum amongst locals in Bristol over the Colston statue. The result was that people wanted it to stay but with historical context added on a plaque. So, basically, sod what the (Labour) mayor feels, and the protestors. Local democracy has spoken.

To carry on using the Colston incident as an example, what should have been uppermost in senior officers' minds was defending the democratic choice of the local population, not the right of troublemakers to cause damage for political capital.
 

4(T)

LE
We have plenty of Hate Crime, Criminal Damage and other usable legislation, the trouble is finding a police force/ judicial system/ government that acts for the majority population and not solely on behalf of minority extremist groups from one side of the political spectrum.
 

Mrs Slocombe

Old-Salt
If any scrote is arrested and convicted for damaging ANY War memorial, whatever sentence is handed down by the judge (and it should be a judge who has served in the military), that sentence should be served at MCTC Colchester.
Presumably a straightforward case of criminal damage would go before magistrates, so no judge involved.

You seem to suggest that a judge who hasn't served in the military would be unable to preside over such a trial, as he or she wouldn't understand/appreciate the issues involved. You could equally argue that a trial involving a bicycle would have to be overseen by a judge who is a cyclist, or a trial involving a vegetarian would have to be overseen by a judge who is a vegetarian. Etc etc.
 

Sexton Blake

Old-Salt
Signed and passed on.
 

4(T)

LE
IMHO such a petition shouldn't be restricted to just military memorials. The entire cultural fabric of the nation is being targetted - Blue plaques, Street names, graves, TV shows, language itself.
 

Dalef65

Old-Salt
A petition that is (or should be), unnecessary.

The focus should be on why the Police choose to stand by and watch while people break existing laws, (laws which are supposed to protect the whole of society), not on creating another law.

That said, I will probably sign up if only to send a signal to the politicians about the depth of feeling on this issue.
 

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