A Humbling Example of Why I Am A Christian

#1
The testimony of Zac Smith. After seeing this in church today I felt moved to share it. I understand some will no doubt feel similarly compelled to rail against such faith etc. But as an ARRSER who I think has (as the cowboys in our wild west used to put it) "earned my spurs" on here, I only ask out of respect for this man who cannot respond that you focus any slagging on me not him or his family.

http://vimeo.com/m/#/9796056
 
#2
He is a bit inspirational is all I can say. I hope I can be as level and dispassionate about things if I ever have similar circumstances.
 
#3
Yeah, it's wonderful how a loving God would deprive children of their father as an inspiration to the rest of us.
 
#4
wedge35 said:
Yeah, it's wonderful how a loving God would deprive children of their father as an inspiration to the rest of us.
He is still a loving God IMHO.
 
#5
wedge35 said:
Yeah, it's wonderful how a loving God would deprive children of their father as an inspiration to the rest of us.
I didn't see God on the video, so cant comment.
 
#6
I couldn't get passed 40 seconds. Did I miss anything exciting??

God shmod.....what a load of shite. Faith is for the weak.
 
#7
wedge35 said:
Yeah, it's wonderful how a loving God would deprive children of their father as an inspiration to the rest of us.
My view Wedge, is that I'll happily debate the existence of god in the correct context (i.e. with people willing to do so) - but if somebody is a believer and just expressing their belief (like jumpinjarhead is here), then I tend to refrain because attacking their belief is probably not called for.

That's the rule that I use anyway :)
 

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#8
I'd prefer to be an Arab sheik and be tested by god through sports cars, endless wealth and scores of Russian prostitutes.

Getting cancer instead seems like a bit of a swindle.
 
#9
jumpinjarhead said:
The testimony of Zac Smith. After seeing this in church today I felt moved to share it. I understand some will no doubt feel similarly compelled to rail against such faith etc. But as an ARRSER who I think has (as the cowboys in our wild west used to put it) "earned my spurs" on here, I only ask out of respect for this man who cannot respond that you focus any slagging on me not him or his family.

http://vimeo.com/m/#/9796056
Christianity is a load of shit. Here in Europe we believe in the fact of evolution, we dont worship sky fairies.
 
#10
amazing__lobster said:
wedge35 said:
Yeah, it's wonderful how a loving God would deprive children of their father as an inspiration to the rest of us.
My view Wedge, is that I'll happily debate the existence of god in the correct context (i.e. with people willing to do so) - but if somebody is a believer and just expressing their belief (like jumpinjarhead is here), then I tend to refrain because attacking their belief is probably not called for.

That's the rule that I use anyway :)
Fair one. I'll post a vid about how much I love Epicurus if I ever end up with cancer of the hoop :wink:
 
#11
Thanks for posting the video jumpinjarhead. A lady at my church did a similar thing on how prayer has helped her cope with terminal cancer. She is such an inspiration as she is always the happiest person at church, always smiling and saying hi, she's in her 80's though; must have been really hard for that guy at such a young age and with a family and everything. It puts things into perspective a bit, makes me think how much we all can, not fully appreciate the relationships we have.
 
#12
For me religious belief is a personal thing and I am very uncomfortable around people who feel the need to shout from the rooftops about their God and how much they believe . Its as if they themselves need convincing of their own beliefs.
In saying that, if this is what gets somebody through a traumatic time then so be it. Just don't expect me to sit through it.
 
#13
All the best to the guy's memory and his family, and it's good that his beliefs helped him through a difficult time.
That said, I don't think there's ever a chance of me sharing those beliefs, but hey, it takes all sorts.
 
#14
Each to their own, but not for me.

From ARSSEpedia...

The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.

An Arab as well! Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri

What you have to understand JJH, is over here Religion is a dwindling minority for the general population. It's for Christenings, Marriages (less so now), and deaths (not always though), it is no longer the centre of most communities.
 
#15
jumpinjarhead said:
The testimony of Zac Smith. After seeing this in church today I felt moved to share it. I understand some will no doubt feel similarly compelled to rail against such faith etc. But as an ARRSER who I think has (as the cowboys in our wild west used to put it) "earned my spurs" on here, I only ask out of respect for this man who cannot respond that you focus any slagging on me not him or his family.

http://vimeo.com/m/#/9796056
JJH, I respect your beliefs and Faith and I'm glad that the person involved is helped by his. Not my cup of tea, though. I am also impressed by your insight into the possible response from some of our fellow site users.

I was raised in the Church, so to speak, and when given the choice I chose soccer. My sister stuck with it, socialised in the church, worshipped, married into it and raised her sons as Christians. She and her husband also started their own "back to basics" branch when they considered the modern way was getting a little happy clappy.

It was my mum that informed me of this and when I asked if it was a Christian Fundamentalist cult she almost stopped speaking to me.

Anywayin the words of the Irish comic Dave Allen, "May your God go with you".
 
#16
Ecclesiastes 3:1 - 2

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

A time to be born, and a time to die....


And that's the way it goes.
 
#17
smudge67 said:
I couldn't get passed 40 seconds. Did I miss anything exciting??

God shmod.....what a load of shite. Faith is for the weak.
Your privilege.
 
#18
TerryFukWit said:
jumpinjarhead said:
The testimony of Zac Smith. After seeing this in church today I felt moved to share it. I understand some will no doubt feel similarly compelled to rail against such faith etc. But as an ARRSER who I think has (as the cowboys in our wild west used to put it) "earned my spurs" on here, I only ask out of respect for this man who cannot respond that you focus any slagging on me not him or his family.

http://vimeo.com/m/#/9796056
Christianity is a load of s***. Here in Europe we believe in the fact of evolution, we dont worship sky fairies.
With that I will but say your avatar name is quite apt. Cheers!
 
#19
bluntslane said:
Anywayin the words of the Irish comic Dave Allen, "May your God go with you".
Thanks for that. You obviously have a brain moderated by a bit of humanity, which I suppose some obviously more manly me than your humble servant of but 34 years USMC infantry service and 2.5 wars consider weakness.

And my God does indeed go with me. :D
 
#20
The surprise I had upon moving to the states and in the 8 years I lived there was religion - the biggest hypocrisy in the country.

The fact that so many professed to believe, but yet did not live their life in a "Christian" way, but would go to their clubs on a weekly basis and pay homage.

When asked what particular club (religion) I belonged to, I was almost ostracised for choosing to be an individual.

Religion (especially in the US) really does beggar belief.
 

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