A Conservative Government anyone?

#1
What impact do you think the Conservatives will have on the armed forces if they get into power in the next election. I doubt Blairs fun brigade will be in next time, unless Brown turns things around, however it is unlikely. The torys have always been pretty pro-british and have generally been against cuts and red tape bullshit. I personally like Cameron, I think he's a good guy, but as we all know, things change when they get into power...
What'd think?
 
#2
The tories are always strong on management - problem is the forces are about insurance not management.

A good tory will look after the forces. A weak tory will listen to the tarts in the treasury and stuff the forces.

All in all though the tories are much better for the forces than the trots.
 
#3
Unfortunately it's getting late and my minds are on other things but who was Thatcher's Minister of Defence? The one that made hgue cuts right before the Falklands war.

I think a Tory government would be bad in just about everyway. The way the forces are treated is more down to the individual at the top and the top civilians and military brass, rather than based on overall party policy - I think
 
#4
Personally I would like them to at least put an ex soldier as defence minister perhaps David Davis. But hopefully they will increase defence funding and get rid across all part of the government this bloody red tape which wastes so much money. I will voting Conservative can't bring myself to vote for anyone else.
 
#5
Knott - the man was a very clever accountant but a useless Minister of Defence. A treasury tart. But whilst cost cutting in certain areas at the same time the tories were increasing defence spending overall and had just given the services several huge pay rises.
 
#6
minime33 said:
Personally I would like them to at least put an ex soldier as defence minister perhaps David Davis. But hopefully they will increase defence funding and get rid across all part of the government this bloody red tape which wastes so much money. I will voting Conservative can't bring myself to vote for anyone else.
david davies did write this blog

http://daviddaviesam.blogspot.com/2006/02/waste-and-incompetence-in-mod.html

Have a glance see what you think regarding what mr davies says regarding what he thinks regarding waste and incompetance in the m.o.d.
 
#7
any party that stops the immigrant fiasco, scrap the agreement to give up our rebate to the EU, does not try to join the Euro, looks after the Armed forces including the cadet movement, scraps the human rights charter including scrapping all apeals against deportation to be applied retrospectively.

gets my vote
 

luke

War Hero
#9
no thanks
 
G

Goku

Guest
#10
UKIP are the better alternative to the BNP, I just cant bring myself to vote for a one policy party though :?
 
#11
sorry if i seem to imply that i m voting BNP, the short answer is no, any party that includes the points i mentioned above in addition to mainstream issues i.e. Economics, Housing, Employment, trade, etc the Jobs a responsible govt should be doing which inlcuded ACTUALLY listening to the electorate, the current administration seemed to have failed that
 
#14
Much as I detest Labour and hate Blur and his gang, I just don't see Cameron as a national leader.
john
Grips my sh1t to say the above.
 
#15
doctrine said:
minime33 said:
Personally I would like them to at least put an ex soldier as defence minister perhaps David Davis. But hopefully they will increase defence funding and get rid across all part of the government this bloody red tape which wastes so much money. I will voting Conservative can't bring myself to vote for anyone else.
david davies did write this blog

http://daviddaviesam.blogspot.com/2006/02/waste-and-incompetence-in-mod.html

Have a glance see what you think regarding what mr davies says regarding what he thinks regarding waste and incompetance in the m.o.d.
I know, I know, don't feed the troll.

But this is possibly a genuine mistake. David Davies AM MP is NOT the same man as David Davis MP, Shadow Home Secretary, ex-forces.

They are both Conservatives - most confusing.

sm.
 
#16
John Nott was Thatcher's SoS for Defence prior to and suring the Falklands War. He was pilloried for his proposed changes (NB: NOT cuts) to the navy. He wanted to cut back on small carriers and amphibs and invest in SSN's. In the context of the Cold War, this was exactly the right choice. But unfortunately, it was exactly the wrong choice for the Falklands campaign.
 
#17
I would like to see Boris Johnson as the new defence minister or even better the new prime minister - Im sure he would make some outstanding decisions
 
#20
Jacques_Bustard said:
The Tories have made their share of cut backs in defence spending, anyone remember Options for Change?
Hardly the fault of the government in power was it? The Warsaw Pact stopped playing the game and ended the Cold War. No government could justify the level of forces we had after they gave up, no 1st Shock Army sat the other side of the IGB means nothing for thousands of troops to do.

The US forces had much larger cutbacks when the Berlin Wall came down.

Of course the manner with which the reductions were carried out was questionable. Rather than trimming mainly from the top and keeping promotions/careers for those staying in the forces alive and well they took mainly the rank and file and left us with the situation we have now. More officers than you can shake a shitty stick at with dead mens shoes in many branches of the forces.
 

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