A bit of a story

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  1. A few years ago, my uncle died and I came across a number of German photos and two post office receipts.

    I have managed to vaguely piece together a little history from both.

    There were two brothers, Heinrich and Hans Loden who joined different units with the outbreak of war.

    Heinrich joined Kompanie Panzerabwehr-Abteilung 654. formed on 26 August 1939 in Bremen in the Cambrai-Kaserne.
    Google Translate

    His brother Hans joined Landesschützen-Bataillon XVII/XII Mobilised on 26. August 1939 in Mainz
    Landesschützen-Bataillone - Lexikon der Wehrmacht
    From the fieldpost number it can be seen that he was in the 2nd company.
    From the fieldpost receipts, it can be seen that Heinrich sent home 200 Reichmarks to his Father Johann Loden who was a farmer living in Rhade

    The second receipt is for sending 35 Reichmarks to his brother Hans. This was either sent by his Father or Heinrich himself.

    Parents back home ?

    His nephew. On the back was written 'In memory of your small nephew Hermann'


    I believe that this is a photo of Heinrich Loden. Looks as if he was a motorcyclist who posed on a Char B tank in the battle for France.
    Believe this is a French truck

    Not sure where this was taken. Upon closer inspection, you can see that a number of French trucks are being used, the two on the far left. Also these have a key painted on them. This symbol is adopted by the city of Bremen, from where the unit originated.
    Key of Bremen.
    Google Image Result for http://flagsandanthems.com/media/flags/flag-bremen.gif
    This photo shows vehicles crossing an improvised bridge.

    Zooming in on the unit ID on the car
    Axis History Factbook: 100. Jäger-Division
    From the theatres in which this unit and 654 fought and a later photo, I believe the following photos were taken in Yugoslavia.
    Group photo, well clothed for cold weather.
    Partisans, or retribution for a partisan action ?
    On the back of the photos was some writing – shooting in Serbia.
    On the back of this one was written, Prisoners in Serbia

    Only 1 photo has a date on it which is 1941.

    I wrote to the BundesArchiv who informed me that Heinrich survived the war and died in 1996.

    Would be grateful if anyone could add any details about the units etc.
  2. Sorry Dep.I disagree I thought it was quite interesting.
  3. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    They're German?

    Sorry, a cheap shot. I did this with my Uncles who got copped and did Changi prison and a railway in Burma. I got good help from specialist forums and talking to old boys in smokey pubs.

    Good luck.
  4. Posted it in the NAAFI because I did not think it was current affairs or computer problems. There is no forum for Man finds German pics in attic. Pity his son gave the 2 lugers to the police :( I also posted it on axis history forum. I think that the German who took the pics was obviously taken prisoner in Serbia around 1942 - 43. Not sure I would have wanted to be caught with such pics in my possession though.

    Oh my uncle was in the Welsh Guards and fought in Italy. Also had a few weird coins with popes heads on them. Turned out to be Benedict something from around 1500ish - sold for £2500 at auction :)
  5. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

    Military history is your badger

    My grandad had a Luger and a nice lamp

    He looted them - we've still got the lamp
  6. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    My lot came back from WW2 with intestinal worms and an atitude problem. Posh Birds Dad was a wooput in Probyn's Horse in Burma and came back with a blood stained Buddhist robe, an in-country Kukari and a thing that looks like a venetian blind made of bamboo with Sanskrit writing on it and some old maps written on silk. We sent the maps to the Tankies when he died.

    The robe and the venetian blind still draw me.
  7. Probyn's Horse? Tankies?? Cavalry I think you will find, only RTR are Tankies
  8. Do you still have his coat from Yugoslavia?

    Just a thought :)
  9. My dad was a Wellington gunner and came back from Egypt with 1000 pairs of nylons, 50,000 fags and a dose.

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  10. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Anything bigger than a Landy is a Tank I think you will find? Just because Probyn's Horse had small tanks, it doesnt make them bad people. Are we clear?

    Jesus. Why do I bother?

    Right. Thread starter... maybe find whatever regimental association there is. Then find if there is one that is local to where your old boy came from. Go there and ask around. In my experience, they are warm, friendly and helpfull. Whats the worst that can happen? You buy the beers for some coffin dodgers then they puke on your crotch.

    Worse things happen at sea.
  11. I have his service record, he was in the Welsh Guards, I was looking for any info on the German units. I think the one who took the photos was taken prisoner around 1942 43. Did Yugoslavia rise up and turn on the Nazis then ?
  12. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Nah. Yugoslavians are mostly peace loving Buddhists with deeply held spiritual values. Yugoslavia has never been a hassle to anybody. Ever. They mostly raise sheep and chant and light Joss Sticks.

    Are you sure your ancestor was Welsh?
  13. TID, Stuarts small, Lee's and Shermans not so.