90 years of the RAF - BBC2 121208 2100

#1
On now , unashamed self-indulgence by the Light Blue element...
 
#2
PartTimePongo said:
On now , unashamed self-indulgence by the Light Blue element...
Might not be much left for the centenary. Best get a good party in now and show off. :D
 
#6
Not defending them; but it's a BBC production, not an RAF one.

We're in agreement that some BBC productions commemorating those who have gone (The Fallen) are spot on - and quite rightly so. Why not this one? Listen to some of these old boys and have a little bit of respect, chaps.......
 
#7
PartTimePongo said:
On now , unashamed self-indulgence by the Light Blue element...
Torygraph on WW2 Bomber Command

During the course of the war, 125,000 aircrew of Bomber Command carried out a total of 366,514 sorties. Of these, 297,663 were by night. During these sustained operations, 55,573 pilots and crew were killed.
I wish we'd indulge the Bomber Command survivors - and the memory of the 44% that didn't come back - by giving a campaign medal, and a fitting memorial.
 
#8
This was a bloody awful program. The BBC really cocked this up. 1 and a half hours is enough time to fit everything in, yet they failed to make a single mention of current ops in the stan, didn;t say a thing about the balkans/kosovo, spent way to long on Grapple, hardly spoke about the battle of britain, and neglected to mention anything detailed about aircraft. Dissapointing BBC.

I will credit them with one thing however, maybe, just maybe, we'll get something sorted for Bomber Command crews w/r/t memorial etc. Campaign medals aren't nessecary, they were all issued the standard ones same as anyone who served.
 
#11
I watch this all the way through and the only thing I thought about throughout was the loss of all the bomber crews in WW2 who are without a memorial.
 
#12
The Bomber Command Memorial being mentioned was good. But I don't believe Coastal Command have one either.

There was some archive film I hadn't seen before which was good, and I'd no idea I once sat in the Bomber that was used on OP. GRAPPLE.

Not enough Spitfires for my liking either.

It's once of those programmes that should really have been a multi-parter to get everything in.
 
#13
It is a disgrace that the loss of 55,000 men has never been officially recognised, although I believe there was recently a fund started for a memorial in London.
 
#14
PartTimePongo said:
The Bomber Command Memorial being mentioned was good. But I don't believe Coastal Command have one either.

There was some archive film I hadn't seen before which was good, and I'd no idea I once sat in the Bomber that was used on OP. GRAPPLE.

Not enough Spitfires for my liking either.

It's once of those programmes that should really have been a multi-parter to get everything in.
I agree completely. When there was ten minutes left to run and they'd only just finished talking about Grapple, I thought there'd be another episode at a later date. Very dissapointing! Not enough about the Gulf Wars and NI for my liking either.
 
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Tremaine

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#15
Sanitized Modern Television, BBC State Broadcasting censorship on top form. Production one week. Editing.....two weeks. Value....15 minutes.
 
#16
The 15 minutes with Geoff Wellum and Spitfires in?
 
#17
That was definately a bit strange, perhaps they were trying to put it to much into context and not tell the story. The disappointing coverage of the battle of Britain was also odd. Oh well perhaps they were saving it up for the centenary when they can eulogise properly on what once was
 
#19
Crab PR spin in overdrive, obviously someone somewhere is getting nervous as to where the next cuts are going to fall. Yes we owe a debt to many who have served and are serving, but i felt that the carping about Defence of the Realm falling to a couple of Typhoons to be a bit over hyped. OOOH they can be anywhere in the UK in a couple of minutes, great if its only to escort a Bear back to Murmansk or shoot an airliner down :!: what if theres more than one and they shoot back :? Gosh look, they have been bombing jonny afghan since the thirties. Something like this should have been done over a few weeks broken down into either specific periods or operations, maybe even a programme about (dare i say it) the RAF regiment, their origins and role.
 

seaweed

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#20
Such a wasted opportunity, totally amateurish planning, some nice pics but as usual the story is built around 'what pics have we got?' rather than the pics built round a coherent narrative, and of course jerking back and forth from one topic to another. I just didn't understand why the Speaking Clock was in it - utterly irrelevant. Sack the producer.
 

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