80 Tory MPs reported over gifts

#1
BBC News

Isn't it time that we, as a nation, confined this archaic, self serving, corrupt, incompetent, narcissistic, sycophantic, amoral and, at times, treasonous party political system to the dustbin of history?

It's time for us, as a nation, to throw this bunch of throbbers onto the street. It's time to develop a system -- possibly similar to the Swiss Canton system -- where there are no political parties, to be replaced by local independent candidates who work for, and make decisions for the people they REPRESENT. The party system allows major economic interests access to the political process, whilst Joe Public is betrayed time and again.

Fcking treasonous, tretcherous scumbags the lot of 'em!
 
#2
Our old friend Kevan Jones again has this fella got nothing better to do than bitch about army skiing and minor tory gifts.

I for one am getting cheesed off with this playground politics that is going on, what next my dad's bigger than yours ans he'll beat your dad up if your not my friend, TOSSERS.
 
#5
zippy483 said:
Our old friend Kevan Jones again has this fella got nothing better to do than bitch about army skiing and minor tory gifts.

I for one am getting cheesed off with this playground politics that is going on, what next my dad's bigger than yours ans he'll beat your dad up if your not my friend, TOSSERS.
So it is ok for politicians NOT to follow the rules?

The only way for complete transparency is for politicians of whatever colour to be bubbled if they, their underlings or their constituency party do not play the game.
 
#9
I didn't see the Portillo thing but read an article about it that made me suspicious...

He seemed to enjoy that hypoxia thing a bit too much....90s Tory MP and all that!
 
#10
Not sure we are comparing like with like in the great Labour vs Tory sleaze debate. Can't be arrsed to sort through the various differences at this hour, but it is useful to look at John Mann, one of the MPs who demanded an inquiry.

Could this be the same John Mann, MP for Betteslaw who has enjoyed the odd junket himself - at the expense of that ever so nice regime in Nigeria?

Some of his bills were paid by Shell, one of the oil companies investing heavily in Nigeria at the time the Nigerian regime strung up Ken Saro Wiwa.
 
#11
Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Murkier and Murkier

Two Labour MPs John Mann* and Kevan Jones** have written to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner with a list of donations to 80 Tory MPs they want probed. Guido asked a Labour contact for some background on them, he said "they think they are being clever, but they are idiots".

The list is a list of donations from unincorporated associations consisting of mainly Tory dining clubs and support groups. There is a real and important issue of transparency here. What Mann and Jones seem to have forgotten is that Labour too has had some £2 million from unincorporated associations. In fact Harriet Harman got £5,000 from one for her leadership campaign...

It might not be illegal, but it is shady, and none of the parties have anything to be proud of on this front. However it is of an entirely different order to Hain's fake think-tank. Hain's campaign didn't even report the donations never mind the source.

*John Mann flew to Nigeria recently on a junket courtesy of Shell. Shell is the largest operator in Nigeria providing most of Nigeria's export earnings. Shell were implicated in the judicial execution of Nigerian environmental activist Ken Saro-Wiwa. In September 2001 a court in New York granted relatives of Ken Saro-Wiwa and another of the executed activists, the right to sue Shell. The suit alleged the company fabricated evidence to support murder charges against the two men.

**Kevan Jones loves a junket, Guido counted at least half a dozen trips to Washington and elsewhere courtesy of various arms trade interests on the register in the last couple of years. **

john
 
#13
" Fire mission,,,, 5 rounds of smoke - my location over"
 
#14
total tit for tat and over a non-issue.

According to Radio 4 last night the PSC has already looked at this issue before and said there is nothing wrong with it. In addition to that there are similar clubs for Laibor and other parties running the same system, so the letter is a whole smoke and mirrors thing to try and confuse and distract.

Hopefully the PSC will either kick it out, or have an overhaul of the whole system, equally blasting all parties for thier stupidity and arrogance.

S_R
 
#15
The answer Sven is - of course it is not OK for Tory MPs to break the rules.

Indeed I hope that if any of the 80 are found to have broken the letter or spirit of the rules then David Cameron should sack them there and then. If he did so he might retore a little bit of public confidence in the whole corrupt bunch. If confidence isn't restored then democracy in the UK is going to die on its arrse - and that is down to New Labour and its' apologists.

This is just a feeble attempt to distract attention by a hopeless pair of labour party animals.
 
#16
Herrumph said:
The answer Sven is - of course it is not OK for Tory MPs to break the rules.

Indeed I hope that if any of the 80 are found to have broken the letter or spirit of the rules then David Cameron should sack them there and then. If he did so he might retore a little bit of public confidence in the whole corrupt bunch. If confidence isn't restored then democracy in the UK is going to die on its arrse - and that is down to New Labour and its' apologists.

This is just a feeble attempt to distract attention by a hopeless pair of labour party animals.
Don't think Cameron or Brown for that matter if a labour MP can sack them? The party leaders are not their employer the public is as they are the 'elected member' for their area.
Best they can do I think is pressurise the local party hierarchy to deselect them or expel them from the party.

I agree this is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to draw the public focus from Hain's predicament. Given the amount of money we pay these monkeys you would think they would know better.
 

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LE
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#17
Can I be the first to say that Kevan Jones is a mealy mouthed fcuktard of the highest order?

He is a slimey yes-man for the Labliar hierarchy who will NEVER amount to anything within it, which is why he's given these little 'jobs' to deflect attention from corrupt practices in his own party.

Nothing this tw@t has ever done has amounted to anything, apart from the little freebies and junkets he gets out of his 'tasks'.

When there was a noise about Labliar p!ssing money up the wall at the tax-payers expense, on things like wallpaper, junkets, second homes, fancy office desks and the like, he was sent off to dig into MOD expenditure, such as digging into the expenses of the heads of the army - try looking up his record on parliamentary questions in Hansard.

Now there is yet another stink about Labliar taking cash from the trough with both hands, on the QT, what does he do? Sends 80 Conservative names to the electoral commission for something that is common (and legal) practice for all three parties, and then gets it in the press.

As for the other tw@t working with him - another nobody.
 
#18
MrPVRd said:
He seemed to enjoy that hypoxia thing a bit too much....90s Tory MP and all that!
I bet Portillo was wearing a pair of his wife's stockings under his flying suit and chomping on an orange under his oxygen mask.

Good to see that old Tories never change. They don't call themselves Conservatives for nothing.
 

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