50 Dead Men Walking

#1
This thread probably belongs in the art, films and literature forum but as its got a G2 angle thought I'd post it here. Mods feel free to move it if you want.

Anyway.....

Has anyone seen the film adaptation of the book yet? It's a bit pants and no real reflection of the book, other than it is set in West Belfast and involves a tout named Martin. There, the similarity ends. I though Ben Kingsley played a good Branch Handler however.
 

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#2
I thought this thread was going to be about senior members of the Labour Party.
 
#3
I bought it at the weekend (it was on special offer in my local HMV store).

Have to agree with you, it sways from the point a bit although being a deeply religious man myself I would love to have played an Organ Grinder in the Nutting Squad.

PS: If anyone else visits HMV and thinks that the film Inglorious Bastards is a bargain at £3.99, with the sub-title "Dirtier than the Dirty Dozen", don't be fooled, its the cheap Spaghetti War movie of the latest release and is total cr*p.

PS: Do you think I can get a spot on Soldier Magazine reviewing all the latest releases - I'm fairly cheap.
 
#4
Marty McGartland wanted nothing to do with the film. He cut all ties during production.

(50 dead men walking, that is. I'm not sure how he felt about Inglourious Basterds...)
 
#5
dropshortjock said:
Marty McGartland wanted nothing to do with the film. He cut all ties during production.

(50 dead men walking, that is. I'm not sure how he felt about Inglourious Basterds...)
Read an article last week which suggested he was going to sue producers unless they edited and made a number of changes. They apparently responded by saying they would allow him to see the final cut before production.

It must be true though ! - It was in Colour
 

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#6
HIGHLANDER_SPY said:
PS: If anyone else visits HMV and thinks that the film Inglorious Bastards is a bargain at £3.99, with the sub-title "Dirtier than the Dirty Dozen", don't be fooled, its the cheap Spaghetti War movie of the latest release and is total cr*p.
Or you can do what I did: lash out a tenner and go to see 'Inglourious Basterds' in the cinema and discover that that too is total crap.
 
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HIGHLANDER_SPY said:
dropshortjock said:
Marty McGartland wanted nothing to do with the film. He cut all ties during production.

(50 dead men walking, that is. I'm not sure how he felt about Inglourious Basterds...)
Read an article last week which suggested he was going to sue producers unless they edited and made a number of changes. They apparently responded by saying they would allow him to see the final cut before production.

It must be true though ! - It was in Colour
My bold - I believe the lady director of this fillum allowed him a voiceover at the start of it to express his dis-association from the production. Either that or some caveat in the opening credits. I haven't seen it as yet.
 
#8
Alec_Lomas said:
HIGHLANDER_SPY said:
dropshortjock said:
Marty McGartland wanted nothing to do with the film. He cut all ties during production.

(50 dead men walking, that is. I'm not sure how he felt about Inglourious Basterds...)
Read an article last week which suggested he was going to sue producers unless they edited and made a number of changes. They apparently responded by saying they would allow him to see the final cut before production.

It must be true though ! - It was in Colour
My bold - I believe the lady director of this fillum allowed him a voiceover at the start of it to express his dis-association from the production. Either that or some caveat in the opening credits. I haven't seen it as yet.
It does say that he played no part in the production, nor did his assistant writer. It further states that the film is influenced by the book but names and some events have been changed. I would say that pretty much all of the events were changed!
 
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DesktopCommando said:
like the beginning in Canada not Newcastle ?[/quote]

Believe it was Whitley Bay, Tyne and Wear, not Newcastle (17 June 1999)
Address disclosed after he was stopped for speeding and was found to have 5 different driving licences in different names.

No Source Protection - its in the public domain
 
#11
eye_spy said:
Alec_Lomas said:
HIGHLANDER_SPY said:
dropshortjock said:
Marty McGartland wanted nothing to do with the film. He cut all ties during production.

(50 dead men walking, that is. I'm not sure how he felt about Inglourious Basterds...)
Read an article last week which suggested he was going to sue producers unless they edited and made a number of changes. They apparently responded by saying they would allow him to see the final cut before production.

It must be true though ! - It was in Colour
My bold - I believe the lady director of this fillum allowed him a voiceover at the start of it to express his dis-association from the production. Either that or some caveat in the opening credits. I haven't seen it as yet.
It does say that he played no part in the production, nor did his assistant writer. It further states that the film is influenced by the book but names and some events have been changed. I would say that pretty much all of the events were changed!
The book was shoite from memory, I sent it straight to the Scope shop. Is it the story that involves DM, because if it is and the book was authorised by McGartland, he sounded like a proper turd in that anyway!
 
#12
HIGHLANDER_SPY said:
No Source Protection - its in the public domain
source protection after he was resettled was a bit of a joke with him anyway. he used to go across to west belfast and drive around waving at his old "mates". :D

no wonder they found him. still couldn't get it right when they did, though. if only all their gunmen had been so incompetent...
 
#13
I think there is a case with ole Marty of you can take the boy out of Belfast, but you can't take Belfast out of the boy. When he was re-housed, he decided not to take the opportunity to restart his life. By all accounts he was/is just as as much a scroat now as he was in his days before he became a brussel.
 
#14
eye_spy said:
I think there is a case with ole Marty of you can take the boy out of Belfast, but you can't take Belfast out of the boy. When he was re-housed, he decided not to take the opportunity to restart his life. By all accounts he was/is just as as much a scroat now as he was in his days before he became a brussel.
A bit harsh there eye_spy. The qualities that may well consider him to be a complete pain in 'normal' society, saw him through a very successfull phase of his young life, much to our satisfaction. There's a few folks in your corps sporting decorations thanks to his efforts.
 
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Alec_Lomas said:
eye_spy said:
I think there is a case with ole Marty of you can take the boy out of Belfast, but you can't take Belfast out of the boy. When he was re-housed, he decided not to take the opportunity to restart his life. By all accounts he was/is just as as much a scroat now as he was in his days before he became a brussel.
A bit harsh there eye_spy. The qualities that may well consider him to be a complete pain in 'normal' society, saw him through a very successfull phase of his young life, much to our satisfaction. There's a few folks in your corps sporting decorations thanks to his efforts.
Fair point made Alec and understood. I am not taking anything away from the successes he provided in his short career working for SB nor the bravery of him or others who lived the double life such as he did. His time coincided with my tour in NI which happened to cover the same area so I can remember the the fruits of his information. I was merely reffering to the fact that he continued to lead an anti-social lifestyle once he was given his new life away from the province.
 
#16
He's fairly typical of people from his background and shows all the contradictions which make humans so interesting, of course. Like most PIRA touts, he's highly motivated to fly back to the same dreary 8 streets-by-8 streets ghetto which has framed his life, like a lot of touts he's not a great example of Christian charity and abstemiousness, like a lot of touts, he's probably not that likeable a bloke or any too reliable as a business partner.

At the same time, he worked hard, loyally and courageously for HMG and deserves its gratitude and support. We took him on and ran him (destroying his life at the same time), it's up to us to do what we can to smooth his path, for both moral reasons and practical - if we are seen to throw burned assets away, how likely is it that future recruitments will be difficult?

As ever, feel free to substitute "agent" for "tout" above to taste.
 
#17
I though Ben Kingsley played a good Branch Handler however.[/quote][/b]

Too much compassion and no thought for himself? - not the Branchmen I knew mate.
 
#19
50 bored men sleeping, sounds like a recent dinner night 8O
 

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