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#3
would like to know who the gunners actually where, i was down in st johns wood and i dont remember that many people bieng 'Iraq veterans' as described on sky news. Only a few gunners got the chance to go on deployment...
 
#4
smudge67 said:
It's quicker than signing off.
But I dread to think of the consequences on your future attempts to gain employment.

msr
 
#5
By the very nature that these druggies were thrown out they are not exactly FTSE 100 Boardroom material. They will probably bluff their way into some 2nd career and no doubt carry on dabbling in drugs. It would be a real pity if all discharged druggies had their National Insurance Number and address passed to the local Civvie Police and they kept an eye on them. It would be such a shame if they were nicked again wouldn't it ?
 
#6
msr said:
smudge67 said:
It's quicker than signing off.
But I dread to think of the consequences on your future attempts to gain employment.

msr
Why? I left the Army with an "exemplary" record. When trying to get a job in civvy st not one employer was interested in my "red book".

Being binned from the Army will not affect their future employment prospects.
 
#7
Killaloe said:
By the very nature that these druggies were thrown out they are not exactly FTSE 100 Boardroom material. They will probably bluff their way into some 2nd career and no doubt carry on dabbling in drugs. It would be a real pity if all discharged druggies had their National Insurance Number and address passed to the local Civvie Police and they kept an eye on them. It would be such a shame if they were nicked again wouldn't it ?
Are you taking the piss??? Tw@t.

Do you think that the police would be interested in "keeping an eye" on someone because they were binned from the Army after taking drugs?

What planet do you live on.
 
#8
I wasn't aware that the RHA spent their time "guarding the Queen"; am prepared to be corrected on that one.

Why is this newsworthy? Do you see headlines in papers saying FIVE BANKERS FIRED FOR COCAINE ABUSE or BUILDERS NICKED FOR HAVING A SPLIFF? In an organisation with 109,000 employees, many of whom are under 22, there are going to be those who do drugs, indulge in crime etc.

Being binned from the Army will not affect their future employment prospects.
Oh really? As an employer you would think twice about employing a person who had been fired from a previous job; what's the difference?
 
#9
As far as i know The Kings Troop take over for a month a year, in august, doing queens lifeguards whilst the household cav go away for training.
 

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#10
Bravo_Zulu said:
I wasn't aware that the RHA spent their time "guarding the Queen"; am prepared to be corrected on that one.

Why is this newsworthy? Do you see headlines in papers saying FIVE BANKERS FIRED FOR COCAINE ABUSE or BUILDERS NICKED FOR HAVING A SPLIFF? In an organisation with 109,000 employees, many of whom are under 22, there are going to be those who do drugs, indulge in crime etc.

Being binned from the Army will not affect their future employment prospects.
Oh really? As an employer you would think twice about employing a person who had been fired from a previous job; what's the difference?
You are correct, but only if they knew, were told or found out. The reality is that most employers are unaware of the existance of the Red Discharge Book, and would probably accept the individuals word that 'their contract in the forces was over' or 'they had done their time' or 'i resigned (pvr'd) to be nearer home' etc etc.
 
#11
Killaloe said:
By the very nature that these druggies were thrown out they are not exactly FTSE 100 Boardroom material. They will probably bluff their way into some 2nd career and no doubt carry on dabbling in drugs. It would be a real pity if all discharged druggies had their National Insurance Number and address passed to the local Civvie Police and they kept an eye on them. It would be such a shame if they were nicked again wouldn't it ?
It would be a shame, but also illegal.

Using drugs doesn't instantly make you an idiot, arguably foolish, but not an idiot.

I'm no apologist for druggies but it is tolerated in civi street, if not accepted.
 
#12
I took my red book to an interview once. The person conducting the interview wasn't interested in it in the slightest.

Drugs aren't looked at in the same light in civvy st either.
 
#13
Class A usage is compulsory in some City/media firms. Its a bit like having to do PT in the morning, except the women are prettier.

Hint: Never ask a gathering of meeja folk to 'form a line'.
 
#14
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#16
BuztyBabe said:
I find the punishment a bit harsh to say the least. If they were on leave or 'off' time I can't see the problem if it was just recreational and discreet. Can't people see the Army is not a knitting circle... but more about work hard, play hard.

Is there a stepped warning system?
Perfectly acceptable punishment with which most here will agree. It's the same with train drivers or airline pilots, it can put others lives at risk so zero tolerance.

No stepped system is appropriate in the military, below the rank of Cpl it's possible to soldier on if considered out of character, Cpl and above, good bye. Others will correct me if I'm wrong.

My point was drug use doesn't make you into some kind of social leaper in civi street that some seem to believe.

You are right on one point though, it's not a knitting circle it is the Army. :roll:
 
#17
Carl24488 said:
would like to know who the gunners actually where, i was down in st johns wood and i dont remember that many people bieng 'Iraq veterans' as described on sky news. Only a few gunners got the chance to go on deployment...
Everyone is now an "Iraq veteran" like they all used to be "Falklands veterans".No walting involved,just the scum press :twisted:
 
#18
BuztyBabe said:
I find the punishment a bit harsh to say the least. If they were on leave or 'off' time I can't see the problem if it was just recreational and discreet. Can't people see the Army is not a knitting circle... but more about work hard, play hard.

Is there a stepped warning system?
Troll.
 
#19
BuztyBabe said:
I find the punishment a bit harsh to say the least. If they were on leave or 'off' time I can't see the problem if it was just recreational and discreet. Can't people see the Army is not a knitting circle... but more about work hard, play hard.

Is there a stepped warning system?
i can see why you've got an o2 tag, please please please tell me you're just cruising for a fleshy veiny treat and not actually in?

As a civilian employer, I would expect anyone with "ex militairy" on their CV to march into the interview, halt smartly and scream their name rank and number repeatedly whilst double legging and holding out their red book open at the page marked "what i really did, and how i behaved"...

All drug takers are scum, these men should of been whipped through the regiment, stripped naked at the gate, shot in both ankles and left for the crows to feast on...
I include in this of course everyone whos ever even thought about taking a recreational pharmacutical of any description, having fun ist verboten and offenders will be shot.... repeat offenders will be spoken to harshly whilst being shot again to teach them a lesson.
Drugs are at the epicentre of everything that is bad about this country, including drum and bass.

and don't get me started on bummers and darkies.
 
#20
diplomat said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
I wasn't aware that the RHA spent their time "guarding the Queen"; am prepared to be corrected on that one.

Why is this newsworthy? Do you see headlines in papers saying FIVE BANKERS FIRED FOR COCAINE ABUSE or BUILDERS NICKED FOR HAVING A SPLIFF? In an organisation with 109,000 employees, many of whom are under 22, there are going to be those who do drugs, indulge in crime etc.

Being binned from the Army will not affect their future employment prospects.
Oh really? As an employer you would think twice about employing a person who had been fired from a previous job; what's the difference?
You are correct, but only if they knew, were told or found out. The reality is that most employers are unaware of the existance of the Red Discharge Book, and would probably accept the individuals word that 'their contract in the forces was over' or 'they had done their time' or 'i resigned (pvr'd) to be nearer home' etc etc.
On discharge from the RAF I too was presented with my little book, however on applying for a civvy job here in JHQ no one was interested in my blue book. So what chance a purely civilian employer will ever be interested?
 
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