5% don't think that the Holocaust happened.

As a result of an election, you could say the same about every UK Prime Minister.
Well, no. He lost the '32 election to Hindenburg, who eventually appointed him Chancellor. He didn't get a majority in '33, so he intimidated the Reichstag into passing the Enabling Act, which gave him plenary powers. When Hindenburg died, Hitler succeeded him as head of state.
 
Well, no. He lost the '32 election to Hindenburg, who eventually appointed him Chancellor. He didn't get a majority in '33, so he intimidated Reichstag into passing the Enabling Act, which gave him plenary powers. When Hindenburg died, Hitler succeeded him as head of state.
Go on I'll give you that one. Pedants 1 the rest of the world - who cares ;)
 
What is 'The Holocaust'? If it involves six million jews being gassed with a pesticide it is simply not true.
Strawman - but what's worse is that you know its not just a fake claim - its a fake claim that this is the story being pushed

Because no source anywhere makes this claim
This claim is only made by
a) Holocaust deniers so they 'prove' its a lie and thus having proven their false fact is a lie can prove its all a lie
b) Inadvertently Tabloid Journalists people Teachers using poor wording
c) Tabloid Journalists and others badly informed by poor wording or miss remembered facts.

I have long argued in your defence that you do not deny the holocaust but dispute some facts - It becomes impossible to see you as anything but a holocaust denier when you persist in bravely challenging the 6 million gassed story - Which isn't the official story - hence the dumb - because its got boring now.

Having had this pointed out to you repeatedly -its not by accident you persist in erecting this strawman.

Of course I personally believe your a troll rather than a holocaust denier but why should I argue your case
 
Trump is a democratically elected politician that the loosing side don’t like.
Do you think the electoral college system is democratic? It is specifically designed to avoid what Alexis de Tocqueville and John Stewart Mill called the tyranny of the majority by actually providing the chance of Tyranny of the Minority. As such it is not democratic.
 
Do you think the electoral college system is democratic? It is specifically designed to avoid what Alexis de Tocqueville and John Stewart Mill called the tyranny of the majority by actually providing the chance of Tyranny of the Minority. As such it is not democratic.
It certainly wasn't in 1999/2000.
But if you want perfection you will wait forever.
 
Camp nameKilledRef Auschwitz II 1,100,000
Bełżec 600,000 [278]Chełmno 320,000
Majdanek 78,000
Maly Trostinets 65,000
]Sobibór 250,000
Treblinka 870,000


Which is around 2.7 Million and that's death camps total -

That doesn't include mass shootings worked / starved to death who include other groups such as Russian POWS Gypsys etc

Questions deniers never answer
1) If you dont believe 6 Million Jews Died - why do you believe 5 to 7 million others died

2) Families were rounded up and shipped off if they were not exterminated as the records claim - why were there virtually no young children in the camps** when they were liberated - Its some what odd that everyone under the age of 11 had close to a 100% Mortality rate.

3) Hitler pre war made it clear the Jews would pay if there was another war - why then the reluctance to accept he carried out the threat



**Possibly excluding Bergen Belson - which wasn't supposed to be a death camp and I cant recall if it was family groupings there as part of the Jews for trucks thing so no extermination.
 
Do you think the electoral college system is democratic? It is specifically designed to avoid what Alexis de Tocqueville and John Stewart Mill called the tyranny of the majority by actually providing the chance of Tyranny of the Minority. As such it is not democratic.
The electoral college was a very good idea when it was introduced in the days of horse transport. Now, in my view, it's a bit of an anachronism, but I'll bet it's in 'The Constitution' so you're probably stuck with it. Obviously in a straight one against one vote a simple majority over the whole USA should be used, otherwise one man's vote is worth more than another's.
 
Haven’t seen Trump push for ‘president for life.’ Hitler did however manage to achieve Reichs chancellor for life.

It’s seen as Kool by readers of the Guardian to criticise Trump. The simple fact was that people had grown tired of Obama and his bullsh*t. (Do you actually think Obmacare was seen as a success by the majority of the American electorate who had saved for their own private healthcare?)

And the other option was Clinton who is hated by many in the states expect for the vocal minority.

Elections are a great way to see how inclusive your echo chamber is. Clinton found out to her dismay that becoming president wasn’t as straightforward as she’d been told it would be by the liberal elite.

You’ve know doubt seen the gnashing off teeth about Trumps use of social media. The gnashing of teeth isn’t about the fact he did it. The gnashing of teeth was about the fact that the democrats social media guys got complacent and put in a very poor performance.
There's quote a funny YouTube channel, campuslife(?), Where the host shows pictures of refugees in cages or quotes along the lines of 'send immigrants home'.

it's hilarious when he then proved to the mong who's just melted down on camera that the picture of quote is from Obama's time and/or democrat sources.
 
Camp nameKilledRef Auschwitz II 1,100,000
Bełżec 600,000 [278]Chełmno 320,000
Majdanek 78,000
Maly Trostinets 65,000
]Sobibór 250,000
Treblinka 870,000


Which is around 2.7 Million and that's death camps total -

That doesn't include mass shootings worked / starved to death who include other groups such as Russian POWS Gypsys etc

Questions deniers never answer
1) If you dont believe 6 Million Jews Died - why do you believe 5 to 7 million others died

2) Families were rounded up and shipped off if they were not exterminated as the records claim - why were there virtually no young children in the camps** when they were liberated - Its some what odd that everyone under the age of 11 had close to a 100% Mortality rate.

3) Hitler pre war made it clear the Jews would pay if there was another war - why then the reluctance to accept he carried out the threat



**Possibly excluding Bergen Belson - which wasn't supposed to be a death camp and I cant recall if it was family groupings there as part of the Jews for trucks thing so no extermination.
Bethan Nelson is a strange case.

The lack of kids and infirm was more from the lack of them at the original camps and the horrendous journey to belsen.

And the horrendous conditions and rampant disease at the camp. So bad the Germans knew they needed allied help to deal with it or risk unleashing the lurgy (various) on the local populace.
 
in effect Jews were forced into Money lending and banking by discriminatory laws.
My understanding of the situation was that Christian teaching, at the time of the emergence of the banking system, disapproved of money lending, and that the tradesmen best suited to banking were goldsmiths, with both their gold reserves for capital, and the fact that they already had secure premises, and as fortune would have it, a large number of goldsmiths were Jewish and thus money lending wasn't against their religious teachings. If there were discriminatory laws, they were Church laws discriminating against their own.
 
My understanding of the situation was that Christian teaching, at the time of the emergence of the banking system, disapproved of money lending, and that the tradesmen best suited to banking were goldsmiths, with both their gold reserves for capital, and the fact that they already had secure premises, and as fortune would have it, a large number of goldsmiths were Jewish and thus money lending wasn't against their religious teachings. If there were discriminatory laws, they were Church laws discriminating against their own.
I dont think that's an instead of but more an also factor

You can see how Jews moving into those professions will be viewed as unclean and of course if you owe someone money its easier to dislike them.

Ive changed computer as crappy lappy has died - but I used to have a link to an article and it explained quite well how various states anti Jewish laws (typically property rights / land ownership and movement ) pushed Jews into banking and money lending - Your point rather succinctly explains why that at least was an option.

Of course as you point out with Christians being discouraged many Jews may well have moved into those professions anyway rather than a result of discrimination.

So perhaps rather than forced into them - forced out of the more 'honest' professions - may be a better phraseology the lack of Jews seen as working and thus living off others efforts being the driver to anti Semitism.
 
Do you think the electoral college system is democratic? It is specifically designed to avoid what Alexis de Tocqueville and John Stewart Mill called the tyranny of the majority by actually providing the chance of Tyranny of the Minority. As such it is not democratic.
Even less so when you realise the Electors are appointed by the political parties.

Less 'check and balance' and more 'cheque's in the post.'
 
What is 'The Holocaust'? If it involves six million jews being gassed with a pesticide it is simply not true.
Until you can come up with watertight historical proof of your assertion it will remain bullshit.
Modern historical thinking now demands that you prove your case not the other way round.

If you can provide any academic evidence that is not sourced from IHR or any other Holocaust denying organisation then do so.
But you can't because no serious historians or historical organisations take you seriously therefore you and your type are regarded as an agenda driven joke.
A bad joke but a joke nonetheless.

Sorry Higgsy but that's just the way it is.
 

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