4 Handguns but No "assault rifle" used in Connecticut school murders

#1
And people wonder why many of us are suspicious of the media and the callous way it is used as a propaganda tool by our Masters:

From Reuters 2 days ago:

The U.S. debate over gun control erupted in mid-December after a man armed with an assault rifle killed 20 first-graders and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut - the deadliest of a string of U.S. shooting sprees last year.Rallies across U.S. assail Obama's proposed gun curbs | Reuters
From NBC onDecember 15:

This continues to be a very complex investigation and there is a lot of contradictory information out there, but we have some new information this morning (one month ago) from a couple of federal officials and state officials.


They say now that there were actually four handguns inside the school, not just two as we were initially told. Four handguns and apparently only handguns that were taken into the school.


We knew that Adam Lanza, the man said to be the gunman here, also had an ‘assault-style’ AR-15 -style rifle that he had had taken to the school, it was in the car he drove there, his mother’s car, but we have been told by several officials that he had left that in the car.
I wonder why the political diatribes fail to make this ever so slight factual correction? (Assuming the NBC report is accurate itself)
 
#2
Well I ordered one to day, so lets see if I get a ship date.

The main reason to get it now is to get ahead of the saga that may or may not come. So how is that gun control debate working out for them, if it just pushes anyone thinking about it to order while they can.

Meanwhile I have noticed assault weapon and assault rifle are being used interchangeably in the media.
 
#3
JJH- I'm pro-firearm ownership, and sympathise to a degree with the political issues you draw attention to. The problem here is that within the UK there is little understanding of the sensitivity of firearms ownership in the US. As a result you are left with people who agree with you, but cannot add strength to your lobby, or people who object who will never have their minds changed. You're wasting your time a little.
 

Mav

Old-Salt
#4
It seems the news at the time got it entirely wrong:

The primary weapon used in the attack was a "Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon," said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance.
 
#5
JJH- I'm pro-firearm ownership, and sympathise to a degree with the political issues you draw attention to. The problem here is that within the UK there is little understanding of the sensitivity of firearms ownership in the US. As a result you are left with people who agree with you, but cannot add strength to your lobby, or people who object who will never have their minds changed. You're wasting your time a little.

I am not trying to persuade any of my British cousins on this issue but merely trying to keep the FACTS before them rather than the propaganda that so many are fed on this and other "conservative" issues that not surprisingly color their views. Notwithstanding the opinions of my usual detractors, I am not (quite) as crazy as I may seem in the light of the false or misleading information so often provided by most of the media.
 
#6
It seems the news at the time got it entirely wrong:
Without disclosing my source who is in a certain national law enforcement agency, the fact that the murderer used 4 pistols and only had the AR15 in his car was widely known among law enforcement from the first hours after the incident.
 

Mav

Old-Salt
#7
Without disclosing my source who is in a certain national law enforcement agency, the fact that the murderer used 4 pistols and only had the AR15 in his car was widely known among law enforcement from the first hours after the incident.
Sorry, should've made myself clearer - my interpretation was that at the time the news said he only used pistols, and that more recent news states that the AR15 was the primary weapon - Newtown shooter's guns: What we know - CNN.com

I put it down to it being in the interest of certain parties that a shooting with pistols was more palatable...
 
#8
Without disclosing my source who is in a certain national law enforcement agency, the fact that the murderer used 4 pistols and only had the AR15 in his car was widely known among law enforcement from the first hours after the incident.
And does this make any material difference to the murdered children?
 
#9
Sorry, should've made myself clearer - my interpretation was that at the time the news said he only used pistols, and that more recent news states that the AR15 was the primary weapon - Newtown shooter's guns: What we know - CNN.com

I put it down to it being in the interest of certain parties that a shooting with pistols was more palatable...
From my back channel and news sources it appears the weapons were pistols but the AR story facilitates the gun ban agenda. As is so often the case, it is the first headline that remains alive and any correction of the facts appears buried in the later news if it is ever even corrected.
 
#10
From my back channel and news sources it appears the weapons were pistols but the AR story facilitates the gun ban agenda. As is so often the case, it is the first headline that remains alive and any correction of the facts appears buried in the later news if it is ever even corrected.
Ah, it's a conspiracy then?

Obama?
 
#11
I think with both sides being in possession of a powerful propaganda machine I'll wait for the official word on this!
 
#12
When I first heard that the Assault Rifle had been used I was a little confused. At the time 'they' reported that the rifle was in the car and not used. Then when the debate over gun control raged it had suddenly been used as the primary weapon.

I thought that I might be just being cynical if the story had been changed to suit the anti-guns side of the debate.

Maybe not?



Q.
 
#13
And does this make any material difference to the murdered children?
I think you are intelligent enough (do not disappoint me) to know the difference between my effort to correct the record that is now much of the basis for the hysteria over "assault rifles" and the murders of the innocent that I have condemned from the outset. Your post is a rather pointed example of how such efforts to at least be accurate about a given incident will be turned on the person trying to keep to the facts so as to make the person out to be heartless or in similar manner as when criticizing our current Master, racist.
 
#14
Ah, it's a conspiracy then?

Obama?
A remarkably effective one as all the new sources seem pretty consistent in their reporting now, that the AR15 was the primary weapon, with some pretty detailed information, such as number of rounds fired.

Does seem to be a pretty big focus on use of 30 round mags tho...
 
#17
From my back channel and news sources it appears the weapons were pistols but the AR story facilitates the gun ban agenda. As is so often the case, it is the first headline that remains alive and any correction of the facts appears buried in the later news if it is ever even corrected.
While I agree with you that certain elements of the media do seem to have an agenda in regard to firearms control I'm more likely to believe it's down to liberal executives and lobbyists applying preasure rather than 'your masters'

Then there is the fact journos are lazy bastards and 'assault weapons' are far sexier than handguns. Fear keeps Americans glued to their 24 hour news feeds and ratings sell advertising space.

I bet the networks would kill for a North Hollywood shootout each week.
 
#18
[video=youtube;iPGuZUai288]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPGuZUai288[/video]
 
#19
JJH- I'm pro-firearm ownership, and sympathise to a degree with the political issues you draw attention to. The problem here is that within the UK there is little understanding of the sensitivity of firearms ownership in the US. As a result you are left with people who agree with you, but cannot add strength to your lobby, or people who object who will never have their minds changed. You're wasting your time a little.
And then you have people who are pro-firearm ownership but find the US "all or nothing" approach ... Umm... "not quite right".
 
#20
[video=youtube;iPGuZUai288]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPGuZUai288[/video]
That guy is hardly confidence inspiring, and being at the NY Assembly doesn't mean he has up to date information - it's not like he was there to present information on Sandy Hook, it was about approving their new gun laws.

5 minutes on Google and I couldn't find a source that states only pistols were used. You have anything, published this year, that does?
 

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