Mentioned on radio 4 just now. The coroner has talked about 'Duty of care' which is no bad thing if a lack of air transport due to government cuts is highlighted, or anything of that ilk. But I fear that it will bring the lawyers for profit firms and possibly Mr Shiner out in force for a media friendly witch hunt of the wrong people.
I was in the UK during the 2 week "heat wave" last week on exercise & we got blitzed with water parades Jarhead style due to the climate as a duty of care. However:
Training in fully plated up osprey & patrols kitted out in theatre specific kit (ECM etc) in those temperatures blokes are going to be susceptible to heat injury, though as our NCOs repeatedly highlighted it's much hotter out in theatre & you're carrying heavier loads & patrolling for longer stints so the onus is also just as much on the individual to maintain hydration, a personal duty of care not always adhered to (to re-iterate I'm not stating this was the case with the 3 cases highlighted).
Similarly the DS will rigorously teach you ground sign awareness & proper usage of vallon, horn etc for C-IED but blokes' have a personal "duty of care" to maintain vigilance.
I've sort of meandered a bit & realise it's an "RIP thread" but it's a valid point that while the heat injuries are tragic the media etc shouldn't be too swift to blame "the army", "defence cuts" or "the training staff" for the deaths.
Police & HSE getting involved now, unfortunately these guys pushed them selves to the limit, the police & HSE would not understand this element. Having nearly lost my own life doing some arduous training on Brecon, there are certain motivations that cannot be measured by a formal investigation.
Police & HSE getting involved now, unfortunately these guys pushed them selves to the limit, the police & HSE would not understand this element. Having nearly lost my own live doing some arduous training on Brecon, there are certain motivations that cannot be measured by a formal investigation.
Its called an arduous course for a reason but no one should die on training. Anyone recall the naval Divers dying during a mud flat run in rubber suits?
It is difficult to guage heat exhaustion when you are possibly trying to weed out the failures and those suffering are trying not to fail it must be heartbreaking for those involved and the families.
Yes an enquiry will be held and I imagine measures will be put in place but it still is an arduous course and these arent boy scouts.