3mth warning order

#1
I am abit worried about my son. He had almost finished his phase 2 training when he injured his leg during a run.
He has been on sick for the last 3 months and its not clear what the problem is, he is back to see the specialist later this month.
He has been told he could be medically disharged.

He was called in to the CO last week out of the blue and put on a 3mth warning order for 3 locker inspections from 6 months ago.
He has overslept today and missed parade. This is the first time he has ever overslept and the 3 locker inspections are the only
things he has ever done wrong in his phase 1 and phase 2 training.
But as he is on the 3mth warning order he is really worried.
Do you think he will get kicked out for this?
Thanks for reading
 
#2
I would say he has been hard done to if he has been given this bender for something that happened so long ago. Punishment must be proportionate and given within a reasonable time. That said he's in the army and having mummy go crying to the CO would not be good.
 
#11
I can never hear a strip light turning on without thinking of training. That *chink chink chink* noise gently waking you from deep, knackered sleep seconds before all hell broke loose in the form of a shouty creature dressed in dpm kicking hell out of lockers, bins and beds.
 
#12
Agai 67 action for over sleeping ( minor sanction: working weekend, extra kit parades etc).
As for the charge relating to 6 months ago; they've left too long a gap to make a minor offence like that stick and a 3 month bender is excessive punishment.
Are you sure it's the CO doing this? It sounds you boy is lying yo you about why he's getting nailed if it is!
If his leg is an issue, he could face PAP 10 action; a medical assessment to see if he'll get better or if he's now unfit to continue.
If he's unfit to continue then hell have to go to a medical assessment board and be dealt with from there..
Hope this helps.
 
#13
I can never hear a strip light turning on without thinking of training. That *chink chink chink* noise gently waking you from deep, knackered sleep seconds before all hell broke loose in the form of a shouty creature dressed in dpm kicking hell out of lockers, bins and beds.
Ha! Ha! , I'm exactly the same.

Good description with the chink sound.
 
#14
I am abit worried about my son. He had almost finished his phase 2 training when he injured his leg during a run.
He has been on sick for the last 3 months and its not clear what the problem is, he is back to see the specialist later this month.
He has been told he could be medically disharged.

He was called in to the CO last week out of the blue and put on a 3mth warning order for 3 locker inspections from 6 months ago.
He has overslept today and missed parade. This is the first time he has ever overslept and the 3 locker inspections are the only
things he has ever done wrong in his phase 1 and phase 2 training.
But as he is on the 3mth warning order he is really worried.
Do you think he will get kicked out for this?
Thanks for reading
Reading between the lines here:

He has been on the sick for 3 months, if he is on much longer without a firm diagnosis then he will be discharged , the Army does not do long term sick especially during basic training. He must do whatever it takes to get fit again.

He has been given a 3 month bender , for something that happened 6 months ago?????/ Sorry love with me that doesn't wash. There has to be something else he has not told you about.

He has overslept today and missed a parade, worst he should get is 7 days ROPs but if the 3 month bender is related to him being lazy or malingering then his CO might take a dimmer view.

Blunt edge? He knows he is in it big time, he is setting himself up for a fall, and this in basic training is a big mistake especially when you consider that the Army is reducing by 20%. If he does not start getting his act together now and I am surprised none of his NCOs have rattled this then you can look forward to having him back home.
 

Legs

ADC
Book Reviewer
#16
Why do I get the feeling that mini-miamoo isn't really enjoying the Army, but doesn't want Mummy and Daddy miamoo to know that he can't hack it/doesn't like it? Being kicked out for something so minor would assuage the guilt he has for letting his parents down when he DOARs.

No, he won't get kicked out for not waking up on time. (Really? REALLY????). He can't be put of a FW for something that happened 6 months ago. Proportion and fairness are the watchwords here. If this is the truth then mini-miamoo needs to request a review of the AGAI. The two paragraphs below highlight what a Formal Warning is for.


PART 4 - FORMAL WARNING

67.040 The purpose of a Formal Warning is to provide a formal written warning that:

a. Sets out the failure of a serviceman to meet the standards of professional
competence, supervisory ability or personal qualities required.

b. Details the actions required to remedy the failing(s) and the consequences of
not doing so.

c. Sets out a period of formal performance monitoring.

67.041 A Formal Warning can be given in a variety of situations:

a. When the serviceman’s behaviour is giving cause for concern but
Administrative Action is not yet considered necessary.

b. In addition to a Minor or Major Administrative Action sanction.

c. After Disciplinary Action.
 
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PrinceAlbert

Guest
#17
Alternatively; he could be telling the truth, and the CoC are just trying to bin him. Being a redarrse they assume he'll not fight back.
 

B_AND_T

MIA
Book Reviewer
#18
Why do I get the feeling that mini-miamoo isn't really enjoying the Army, but doesn't want Mummy and Daddy miamoo to know that he can't hack it/doesn't like it? Being kicked out for something so minor would assuage the guilt he has for letting his parents down when he DOARs.

No, he won't get kicked out for not waking up on time. (Really? REALLY????). He can't be put of a FW for something that happened 6 months ago. Proportion and fairness are the watchwords here. If this is the truth then mini-miamoo needs to request a review of the AGAI. The two paragraphs below highlight what a Formal Warning is for.


PART 4 - FORMAL WARNING

67.040 The purpose of a Formal Warning is to provide a formal written warning that:

a. Sets out the failure of a serviceman to meet the standards of professional
competence, supervisory ability or personal qualities required.

b. Details the actions required to remedy the failing(s) and the consequences of
not doing so.

c. Sets out a period of formal performance monitoring.

67.041 A Formal Warning can be given in a variety of situations:

a. When the serviceman’s behaviour is giving cause for concern but
Administrative Action is not yet considered necessary.

b. In addition to a Minor or Major Administrative Action sanction.

c. After Disciplinary Action.
Methinks someone loves their job too much!
 

Legs

ADC
Book Reviewer
#19
Alternatively; he could be telling the truth, and the CoC are just trying to bin him. Being a redarrse they assume he'll not fight back.

If the CoC wanted to get rid of him, then they would have a reason that would stand up to scrutiny. "Unsuitable for Military Service" is an easy way. They just need to demonstrate why. Having an untidy locker 3 times 6 months ago, and oversleeping are not what they would use. They would say that he doesn't put in effort in lessons & PT, that he doesn't mix well or work as part of a team, that he cries every night, that he is insubordinate. Not that he had his socks with a sad face instead of a smiley face.
 

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