Ive just looked back over this post and frankly i was talking sh*t. i decided i didn't like the marines and should have gotten over it rather than worrying whether id be tough enough for all arms para/commando. Ignore it all.
"Before you can become a Paratrooper in the Royal Engineers you must first complete Soldier, Combat Engineer and Trade Training."

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Well that's cleared that one up then!

"Not got a chip on you're shoulder by any chance..."


But Ive got something to prove to myself as I know I could of hacked the commando course. I just didn't wanna live in a ditch and yomp up mountains for the rest of my career.
If you could have hacked the commando course why didnt you, people try and use other excuses for not doing it! You can always do it again in the Engineers with 59, don't expect 9 sqn to be much different!
why did you leave the marines? if you don't mind me asking!!

I have serveral mates in the Marines and they get treated (careerwise and money and well everyway) better than we ever did!!

if you didn't like seriving in the marines then maybe the army might not be the job for you!!
Ignore it all. I was talking shit.



Thats right, all of the 23 Regt RE guys in 16 Bde get a minumum of straight 8 every night, it never rains when they are on exercise, begans carried for them, fresh hot food delivered every day....

Or back in the real world, they live in the same conditions as the infantry soldiers they support whilst on exercise or ops. Certainly the section I had integrated into my platoon on Telic did.

Quick reality check needed, perhaps?
Not living outside for a career?? Do you think it is any different elsewhere in the Army especially if you do decide to do P Coy, regardless of what you do you will spend the majority of your time living outside when on exercise. If you could piss the commando course join 59 Cdo Sqn Royal Engineers!! You seem to have an image that just the infantry tab piss wet through in winter with very little sleep!! I would question your motives.
RE: "If you could have hacked the commando course why didnt you, people try and use other excuses for not doing it! You can always do it again in the Engineers with 59, don't expect 9 sqn to be much different!

The 'commando course' is the last 6 weeks (exluding king's squad) of RM training, it's during this time you undertake your final exercise and do the commando tests culminating in the 30 miler. It is fookin hard. However, if a RM recruit has reached this stage of training he'll make it, he's done the hard bit. It's the 25 weeks leading up to the course that's the hard part. The mental pressure, the continual fear of beastings and the PT on bottom field destroy you. It's during this time when I was suffering from the flu, yomping across dartmoor psiss wet through in the middle of winter and with 4 hours sleep in the last 3 days that I decided the infantry wasn't for me. I don't doubt I could handle the commando tests but I cant handle the role marines have to do.

With regard to 9 sqn your only passing criteria test on a course that lasts 7 weeks including the pre-para. I dont want infantry I want a trade and not living outside for a career. I just want to prove my fitness on P company. Oh, and jump out of an aircraft!
My mate broke 4 bones in his foot on the 30 miler at about the 8 miles point then fell over at the 20 mile point and fractured his ankle and still finished it, but I suppose that is why he is still in the marines and your not.

the whole purpose of being a marine is to prove your fitness and metal strength, that is why opted to be a piss head in the engineers rather than put my self through all that poo!!
but I found out during training that it is much the same as the marines but they cram it all in to a shorter period of time that's all!!
I think you are trying to fool as yourself as to why you couldnt mentally pass CTC, airborne engineer is near enough infantry anyway! As said by the Duke, reality check!!
Ignore it all.


Ok then F_B, start (and finish) your basic and trade training, then pass all arms P Coy and come back and tell us all about it!

If not, I am not sure I can give much credibility to your statement that it is "just fizz" based on your huge 3 weeks experience.
Sorry, you are right training must have changed within 6 years, oh and yes I have been there!! All arms P coy isnt just phys either. Dont think you are the only one ever to go through it.
I think you need to find a different career. If you thought 3 weeks was hard try doing it for 4 and 1/2 years which is minimum service now as I understand so if I was you I would look for something different.

the Army does get easier when you have finished training but it is still groundhog day and very mentally tiring not doing much all day and semi praying for a war so at least you can do something!!
Ignore it all.


Marines you started training with, do you mean? You jacked after 3 weeks precisely because you couldn't handle the hardship, as you said in your earlier posts!
Bit of advice, if you are as gobby as you come across on here it will be a very short career and believe me the P Coy staff will pick up on it straight away. In fact I know of one of them that regularly visits this site!!

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