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300 million yanks, but not enough to Rule the World

#3
Good piece.However don't write us off quite yet.

If America can outlive this presidency, we will be back on top and all your dark prophecies will come to nought.It will do you all good to support us.

I mean,think of the alternatives:If America was to suddenly lose it's position as the eminent world power who will take over? China or Russia.Or maybe both.Certainly not Britain and even more certainly not the EU.

The world needs America.
 
#4
Devil_Dog said:
Good piece.However don't write us off quite yet.

If America can outlive this presidency, we will be back on top and all your dark prophecies will come to nought.It will do you all good to support us.

I mean,think of the alternatives:If America was to suddenly lose it's position as the eminent world power who will take over? China or Russia.Or maybe both.Certainly not Britain and even more certainly not the EU.

The world needs America.
Devil_dog You need to take a serious lesson in the life around you. America has brought on the last of the worlds problems, Your country stinks, Brits hate you, Whilst you keep trying to Police the World, the world says fcuk off. Go to Thailand and learn what life is about .
 
#5
risingtrout said:
Devil_Dog said:
Good piece.However don't write us off quite yet.

If America can outlive this presidency, we will be back on top and all your dark prophecies will come to nought.It will do you all good to support us.

I mean,think of the alternatives:If America was to suddenly lose it's position as the eminent world power who will take over? China or Russia.Or maybe both.Certainly not Britain and even more certainly not the EU.

The world needs America.
Devil_dog You need to take a serious lesson in the life around you. America has brought on the last of the worlds problems, Your country stinks, Brits hate you, Whilst you keep trying to Police the World, the world says fcuk off. Go to Thailand and learn what life is about .
Last time I was in Thailand, I had me dick sucked for my 18th birthday (and before you ask she was 25) so I know what life is all about thank you very much.
 
#6
Eh whow,
please stay at home and leave us Buddhits out of it.
john
Eh, seriously and ya can tell me I am the soul of descretion, Puying or did you get caught as well.
 
#7
Devil_Dog said:
Good piece.However don't write us off quite yet.

If America can outlive this presidency, we will be back on top and all your dark prophecies will come to nought.It will do you all good to support us.

I mean,think of the alternatives:If America was to suddenly lose it's position as the eminent world power who will take over? China or Russia.Or maybe both.Certainly not Britain and even more certainly not the EU.

The world needs America.
Admittedly the US currently holds an important position, and if it was to suddenly disappear it would create a dangerous vacuum. However, the US will continue down its current path, which is self destruction and erosion of its own position.

As such there will be ample time for the space to be filled, and for world stability to be maintained.

Personally, I see there being a set of powers in alliance to maintain stability. Most likely China, a EU alliance (with Russia having some form of membership/interaction), possibly India, and possibly the remnants of the US. The days of super powers are coming to an end, the unique circumstances that created and then maintained such a situation is no longer apparent and such the position no longer required.

The only question is will the US step down gracefully, or will it go with a fight.
 
#8
I have said before the US will disintergrate internally. First to go will be California and after the Mexs have changed that into a proper Spanish style state Texas and the other nsouthern border states will follow.
john
I'll be dead and gone by then but it will happen.
 
#9
jonwilly said:
I have said before the US will disintergrate internally. First to go will be California and after the Mexs have changed that into a proper Spanish style state Texas and the other nsouthern border states will follow.
john
I'll be dead and gone by then but it will happen.
Christ every decade there's "the American Empire will collapse" series of books and articles. Most of the assumptions on population make-up are based on data over the last few years, which was different than data fifteen years ago and presumably different than the data fifteen years from now. Don't hold your breath.
 
#10
I can see your conncered due to your proximity to California but, our generation should be alright.
john
Ya grand children however will watch the decline and fall of the empire that never was, by then no one from a comfatably well off family wil be in the forces, just the Merchs much same as Rome.
Bye
 
#11
risingtrout said:
Devil_dog You need to take a serious lesson in the life around you. America has brought on the last of the worlds problems, Your country stinks, Brits hate you, Whilst you keep trying to Police the World, the world says fcuk off. Go to Thailand and learn what life is about .
Lady-boys????
 
#12
Virgil said:
Christ every decade there's "the American Empire will collapse" series of books and articles.
Collapse? No of course, but diminishing of American role in World economics and lowering of political influence are inevitable. Though it is a very slow, almost invisible process.
 
#15
Well it is an inevitable part of progress, the rise and fall of nations... remember the country the United states of America itself has been in existance for less time then the British Empire existed so probably has some time yet to go...

I personally think the sea change in the world power balance will come about with the end of fossil fuels, so probably not for another 100 years or so and hardly likely to be bothering any of us.....
 
#16
armchair_jihad said:
Yawn, more nonsense for petulant fantasists.

Boys and Girls the US may very likely go the way of the Roman Empire but only when its lasted as long.
Not true, from available evidence the US has hit its 'empire milestones' at a pace that implies it will only have a short life. Just the same as the British Empire achieved these milestones at a faster pace than say the Romans did.

It is also do to the very unusual situation that the US found itself in, a global power vacuum, and it the only '1st world nation' that wasn’t completely bankrupt and that didn’t have its entire infrastructure bombed to rubble as well as having ample population and landmass. At any other time the US most likely never would have risen to such a position, its almost pure chance.

And it also has to do with the global climate, there is no longer a need for a global superpower to maintain stability, were seeing international alliances becoming far more credible, and able to undertake tasks that used to be the role of single nations.

As much as I loathe the idea, the future is in a more connected EU, with similar organisations appearing in other locations, and stronger international co-operation including most likely a more defined and powerful replacement for the UN.
 
#17
Well I suppose I'd better post this article by the head of Deutsche Bank France again:

http://www.watchingamerica.com/lefigaro000043.html

Sorry to dissappoint the many America-hating, post-imperial penis-envy suffering delusionists out there, but if any power is going to steeply decline this century, it's Europe, not the USA. Russia is in demographic collapse, by the way.

To compare the USA to former European empires is also pretty ludicrous - those empires were based on small countries colonising less developed nations. USA couldn't give a damn about that - its strength is almost entirely internal.
 
#18
AndyPipkin said:
To compare the USA to former European empires is also pretty ludicrous - those empires were based on small countries colonising less developed nations. USA couldn't give a damn about that - its strength is almost entirely internal.
You mean the strengths that China, India et al are ripping out of it in chunks?

The US has lost most of its heavy industry, as well as manufacturing, as well as alot of its intellectual industry (like the tech industry which it rather liked) is being heavily outsourced. Even the great ‘America Super-Corps.’ are jumping ship.

Which means they are left in pretty much the same position as the UK. Having to sell ideas and be ****ing good at it, unfortunately there is nowhere near as much money in it.

The US literally cant maintain its position any more, for the simple reason that these days it actually has competition, and alot of it.
 
#19
America is unlikely to collapse into a chaotic mess of seceding nations likesome scenarios mentioned earleir, what may happenis a gradually reduction in world roles and a form of power trading and policman roles with other nations and we are seeing the start of that process in Afghanistan, the biggest issue facing America is Financial deficit, rising Petrol prices as teh Oil resoirces deminish and Canada is holding a big Oil reserve in Alberta and my Canadian cousin is working there at the moment, there is currently an economic boom in that region.
the biggest issue for most Americanis the loss of prestige and the possibilty of Oil being traded in Euros.

We in UK have given up our world role and we haven't suffered too badly for it, in fact we grew a little stronger over the years and is now in one of the top 5 economic league.
 

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