30 Commando Assault Unit

Any and all info with regard to 'Ian Fleming's Red Indians' would be greatly appreciated please.
General Patton called them 'A bunch of limey Pirates!' but they were otherwise known as 30AU.
Fleming's idea was combined ops teams with Naval Officers in charge of very small teams of commandos, who all operated on 'strictly need to know' basis. I've spent some time with these men and because of the way Fleming structured operations none if them know very much about what they were actually doing at the time, barely even where they were!
The RAF wing was not taken up and they only ever supplied one or two officers with specific targets to pursue after D-Day.
The army wing spent most of war in Italy, Sicily and North Africa i believe.
The website with a condsiderable amount of information already is to be found at:-

Thank you for any help you may be able to give.


The story of Ian Fleming's TOP SECRET wartime Intelligence unit - 30AU.

The men of this unit were said to be not only the inspiration for James Bond but also used as the basis for the novel and movie 'The Dirty Dozen'
Well, somewhere in the obituary thread is that of a Spam movie chap whose account was the basis for this film. It dealt with a number of Septics who were all aunder sentence of death and absconded as soon as they arrived in France, never to be seen again.

I know nothing other than what I read, but that obit wasn't disputed and his account had been published years before the film.

Did Fleming make he DD claim ?.
The DD claim came from some US newspaper articles I found while putting together the 30AU website.
Johnny Ramensky was given full pardon from prison term to join unit. Mainly because the police of the time thought he was best safe cracker in the country.
I think the US press have latched onto a real unit and can only sell it to their readers by reference to a Hollywood production - that's how they 'learn' so much crap. Was there a book "The Dirty Dozen" ?? - if so was that too written after the film?

Couldn't find the arrse thread, but the Telegraph obit for Russ Meyer includes :-

Russ Meyer was born at Oakland, California, on March 21 1922. When he was 12 his mother pawned her engagement ring to buy him an eight millimetre Univex camera, and three years later he won his first amateur film award.

In 1942 he joined the Army Signal Corps and was sent to MGM in Hollywood to train as a combat photographer. He went on to shoot some of the most famous combat footage of the Second World War. Some of his film of General Patton was used in the screen biography Patton: Lust for Glory (1969). In 1943, during the build-up to D-Day, he was sent to Southampton to shoot silent footage of 12 GIs who had been convicted of capital offences but were promised pardons if they went to France on a particularly dangerous mission.

All 12 GIs absconded as soon as they set foot on French soil, and Meyer lost what film he had halfway between England and France. But his memories served as the basis for Robert Aldrich's film The Dirty Dozen (1967), which Meyer hated.

In France Meyer's commanding officer was Ernest Hemingway, who enabled the shy young cameraman to lose his virginity. Major Hemingway escorted Meyer to a brothel outside Paris which he controlled, and told him to take his pick of the 15 staff. "I picked the girl with the biggest tits," Meyer recalled.
For those who want more of Meyer's antics in the porn industry, the full Telegraph obit is available here - you may have to login.
That certainly sounds more akin to the DD we all know and was not mentioned in the articles I read. Had i realised how contentious that point was I would have made better note of where i saw it..now i'm going to have to dig over everything again...
I expect their story stands on its own merit - DD makes them all sound like nasties. Safe-cracker aside, is this an association you want to make?.

Good luck with the site though - there are surely stories to be told.

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