3 year old British girl kidnapped in Nigeria

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#2
Targeting children is a new tactic apparently. I hope she is released unharmed (as most hostages in the area are).
Sounds like there will be plenty of work out there soon...
 
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Khyros, I reckon the Russians are helping train them.

Paranoia is all the rage now.

I hope the girl is recovered safe and well, and the scum that would bring such innocence into violence like this are dealt with in a very nasty manner.
 
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The abduction of children is a common occurance in many countries. The parents are usually rich and the child often unhurt as long as the ransom is paid. This could be a way for them to make money to start a violent attack on the government.
 
#7
Hope they get the kid back unharmed.
 
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forniup said:
Hope the Girls is found safe.
ALson hope this thread isn't moved to the NAAFI :wink:
My sentiment exactly.
 
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I am in Nigeria at the moment and although the main threat in the region is domestic crime (Armed robbery, burglary etc) the threat for the Delta states, which includes Port Harcourt is the kidnapping of expats working for the oil companies out here.
The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger delta (MEND) have launched Operation Tsunami stating"To all foriegn oil companies,leave our land or die in it."
They then go on to state that the oil is being stolen from them to make foriegners and corrupt officials very rich, while the vast majority of Nigerians live in abject poverty.
I can see their point as the cost of living here is very high. Services such as water and electricity are what you would expect of a third world country
However, the Foriegn Office website advise against all travel to Nigeria and specifically The Niger Delta.
 
#10
According to the FCO interview on Sky if the ransom is paid (expected to be around 100,000 quid) the girl will be released. I hope that is the case and that she is not molested.
 
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Have to wonder why any sane person would bring their family there...
 
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monkey104 said:
I am in Nigeria at the moment and although the main threat in the region is domestic crime (Armed robbery, burglary etc) the threat for the Delta states, which includes Port Harcourt is the kidnapping of expats working for the oil companies out here.
The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger delta (MEND) have launched Operation Tsunami stating"To all foriegn oil companies,leave our land or die in it."
They then go on to state that the oil is being stolen from them to make foriegners and corrupt officials very rich, while the vast majority of Nigerians live in abject poverty.
I can see their point as the cost of living here is very high. Services such as water and electricity are what you would expect of a third world country
However, the Foriegn Office website advise against all travel to Nigeria and specifically The Niger Delta.
I am in the Delta as I write this and as I've been out working this is the first I've read about this report

Monkey 104 is correct about what is happening here. (MEND) is a group of disaffected local youth and communities, most with military training and a legitimate chip on their shoulders. They are also backed by disaffected politicians and academics. Yes they are a real threat. There isn't and I don't think there ever has been an outside power involved in this. The aim of MEND is to make the likes of Shell withdraw and ethical Oil companies replace them! ( Do such companies exist?) Whether you agree or disagree that they have a legitimate grievance against the oil companies, the true target is the government and it's continual leaching of oil revenue which the local insurgents are convinced have been robbed from them for years.

The money involved is outrageous. Example: Shell has reduced crude production from 1.5 million barrels per day to 400,000 bbls /day. due to attacks on flow stations,rigs and pipelines.

Unfortunately numerous gangs of crooks and chancers have tagged on
to the fight and their only raison d'taire is kidnap, kill and create mayhem to feather their pockets. Guns are freely available and killings go on from all sides.

Just don't get the idea that we or the septics can intervene. Occupy a country of 150 million? Not a chance!
 
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shagnasty said:
monkey104 said:
I am in Nigeria at the moment and although the main threat in the region is domestic crime (Armed robbery, burglary etc) the threat for the Delta states, which includes Port Harcourt is the kidnapping of expats working for the oil companies out here.
The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger delta (MEND) have launched Operation Tsunami stating"To all foriegn oil companies,leave our land or die in it."
They then go on to state that the oil is being stolen from them to make foriegners and corrupt officials very rich, while the vast majority of Nigerians live in abject poverty.
I can see their point as the cost of living here is very high. Services such as water and electricity are what you would expect of a third world country
However, the Foriegn Office website advise against all travel to Nigeria and specifically The Niger Delta.
I am in the Delta as I write this and as I've been out working this is the first I've read about this report

Monkey 104 is correct about what is happening here. (MEND) is a group of disaffected local youth and communities, most with military training and a legitimate chip on their shoulders. They are also backed by disaffected politicians and academics. Yes they are a real threat. There isn't and I don't think there ever has been an outside power involved in this. The aim of MEND is to make the likes of Shell withdraw and ethical Oil companies replace them! ( Do such companies exist?) Whether you agree or disagree that they have a legitimate grievance against the oil companies, the true target is the government and it's continual leaching of oil revenue which the local insurgents are convinced have been robbed from them for years.

The money involved is outrageous. Example: Shell has reduced crude production from 1.5 million barrels per day to 400,000 bbls /day. due to attacks on flow stations,rigs and pipelines.

Unfortunately numerous gangs of crooks and chancers have tagged on
to the fight and their only raison d'taire is kidnap, kill and create mayhem to feather their pockets. Guns are freely available and killings go on from all sides.

Just don't get the idea that we or the septics can intervene. Occupy a country of 150 million? Not a chance!
Khyros has a good point here and seeing you two lads are out there at the moment :
1. Have you got your partners and kids with you?
2. If so isnt it better to move family back home as to me no ammount of money is worth the risk of having your child or spouse at risk of kidnap.

Not having a go here, just inquisitive.
 
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No need whatsoever for any sort of 'takeover' or occupation; the spams should have learned something -something, for pete's sake, from the last few years, and even if the State Department has more than a few doughbags in it, it has some very capable people. And in global terms the Nigerian situation isn't as serious as it could look from afar. A few expats living uncomfortably for a month or two until their companies cough up the dosh isn't a civil war.

The new focus on Africa by the US is in response to the determined push by the Chinese to secure as much in the way of energy and minerals as it can under a 10? 20? 50?-year plan. The US and EU would do very well to get into gear and engage very closely with the Nigerian Government, with a strong Defense partnership (or whatever they choose to call it). That could take care of much of the stupidity going on in the Delta, as well as (or rather, as a part of) guidance in Governance. And it might take care of the bloody Chinese, too.
 
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Kyros and The-IRON are quite right. No one who values their wife and children should bring them here in the first place. It is insane to do so.
The British consul has withdrawn and advised all Britons to leave. Nuff said

I have no idea who the family are but Port Harcourt is so dangerous that any sane person wouldn't put their family in harm's way by going there. I suspect the father is a civvy with no concept of being in an IS situation. He has my sympathy in this nonetheless.

Does that answer your question?

As to me on my own......I am used to this sort of "Whahalla" . Being ex-military and having served in similar situations I can look after myself. I also travel with an armed guard and a backup vehicle.
 

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Whiskybreath said:
No need whatsoever for any sort of 'takeover' or occupation; the spams should have learned something -something, for pete's sake, from the last few years, and even if the State Department has more than a few doughbags in it, it has some very capable people. And in global terms the Nigerian situation isn't as serious as it could look from afar. A few expats living uncomfortably for a month or two until their companies cough up the dosh isn't a civil war.

The new focus on Africa by the US is in response to the determined push by the Chinese to secure as much in the way of energy and minerals as it can under a 10? 20? 50?-year plan. The US and EU would do very well to get into gear and engage very closely with the Nigerian Government, with a strong Defense partnership (or whatever they choose to call it). That could take care of much of the stupidity going on in the Delta, as well as (or rather, as a part of) guidance in Governance. And it might take care of the bloody Chinese, too.
A month or two? This may carry on for some time, the people of Nigeria have good reason to be starting these troubles (not that I condone it), the government and oil companies have committed some awful atrocities and the people probably feel they have no choice.

I did a quick google about the Ogoni people struggle that still isn't resolved. Heres a bit of history to it all:

http://www.ratical.org/corporations/OgoniFactS.html

Mind as has been mentioned, a lot of others with only the aim of making a quick buck will jump on the bandwagon.
 
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The "... month or two..." refers to the time which the kidnap victims may have to spend on a picnic chair in the swamp, gnawing chicken entrails. The political situation will change when there's a serious move by Yar'Adua's government towards a more equitable division of the spoils; the criminal situation will carry on regardless, I suspect, as the population in the cities is grossly overbloated and underemployed, while that in the Delta won't feel the effects of any change for years at least.



(Edit: I'm happiest when making a quick buck...)
 
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Sad fact is that some folks don't have a sense of self preservation which tumbles over to affect their family. Take that professor who insisted on staying on in Lebanon despite numerous warnings to leave... he became a "guest" of Hezbullah for several years as a result of greed and a naive idea that he wouldn't be a target (don't recall his name at the moment.)

If your taking a job in an unstable, high crime, or disease ridden part of the world, it behooves you to leave your loved ones at home...
 

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