3 Cheers for British Justice?

#1
Just seen, on Sky news, a 16 year old boy has been sentenced to a MINIMUM of almost 3 years for raping a five year old boy.

WTF??? I really cannot see the justice in this sentence.

The little b@rst@rd could well be out within 18 months and be free to do it again.
 

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#3
Should that not be "3 Jeers for British justice"? :cry:
 
#5
A teenage serial sex attacker who raped a five-year-old boy days after being spared a prison sentence for another rape has been jailed for almost three years.The 16-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, pleaded guilty to a catalogue of abuse against the boy, including rape and child abduction.

The attack happened eight days after he was given a three-year community order on June 26 for the rape of a seven-year-old boy in Tameside, Manchester's Minshull Street Crown Court heard.The original sentence handed down by Judge Adrian Smith provoked outcry from the victim's family at the time and a legal challenge.


WTF :x
 
#6
A teenage serial sex attacker who raped a five-year-old boy days after being spared a prison sentence for another rape has been jailed for almost three years.

The 16-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, pleaded guilty to a catalogue of abuse against the boy, including rape and child abduction.

The attack happened eight days after he was given a three-year community order on June 26 for the rape of a seven-year-old boy in Tameside, Manchester's Minshull Street Crown Court heard.

The original sentence handed down by Judge Adrian Smith provoked outcry from the victim's family at the time and a legal challenge.
I can't quite believe what I'm reading...
 
#8
if this is the same story i've just seen on the BBC news then he is doing at least 18 years, the christian parents of his first victim [ 7 years old] sent the judge a letter asking him to be " corrective " rather than " Punitive " punishments, then he goes and does it again or have I got it wrong here.?
 
#9
sandybag said:
if this is the same story i've just seen on the BBC news then he is doing at least 18 years, the christian parents of his first victim [ 7 years old] sent the judge a letter asking him to be " corrective " rather than " Punitive " punishments, then he goes and does it again or have I got it wrong here.?
It's 3 years...

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#10
Track_Link said:
sandybag said:
if this is the same story i've just seen on the BBC news then he is doing at least 18 years, the christian parents of his first victim [ 7 years old] sent the judge a letter asking him to be " corrective " rather than " Punitive " punishments, then he goes and does it again or have I got it wrong here.?
It's 3 years...

Linky
Cheers track_link, I'm going to have a hearing test, I could have sworn that's what I heard. wife always says I never listen.!
 
#11
Tankiebootneckdad said:
Just seen, on Sky news, a 16 year old boy has been sentenced to a MINIMUM of almost 3 years for raping a five year old boy.

WTF??? I really cannot see the justice in this sentence.

The little b@rst@rd could well be out within 18 months and be free to do it again.
Not with a minimum of three years, he couldn't. There is a clue in the word 'minimum'.

The chances of him being released in the next 10 years are somewhat less than me flying to the moon on a paper aeroplane whilst being pleasured by Hayley Westenra and Kirsty Young.
 
#13
In 10 years he'll be 26.. Ready to re-offend.

I'd put him on a Trap-Door then pull a lever myself. Job jobbed.
 
#15
He does not by anychance come from a "underprivileged" upbringing does he? Always a good one for the lawyers to work on!

Maybe he has "learning difficulties"..again, a great one for layers to get folk off the hook!

This really does make me mad when you hear of things like this!!
 
#16
Justice? What justice? In the UK today, there is no JUST in justice. we have seen dozens of examples of criminals getting only the lightest of sentences while decent, law abiding folk are crushed with severe penalties for heinous crimes, such as putting the rubbish bins out too early, and on and on and on...
 
#17
RedCoat2009 said:
Justice? What justice? In the UK today, there is no JUST in justice. we have seen dozens of examples of criminals getting only the lightest of sentences while decent, law abiding folk are crushed with severe penalties for heinous crimes, such as putting the rubbish bins out too early, and on and on and on...
He hasn't got a light sentence, he's got an Indeterminate Sentence that, in theory, could mean he spends his whole life in detention if he's still considered a risk to children or anyone else. The minimum is exactly that, a minimum possible length of time he can serve. Having worked with people similar he's very very unlikely to be out in 3 years or even in the ten years that Ottar mentions.
 
#18
psychobabble said:
RedCoat2009 said:
Justice? What justice? In the UK today, there is no JUST in justice. we have seen dozens of examples of criminals getting only the lightest of sentences while decent, law abiding folk are crushed with severe penalties for heinous crimes, such as putting the rubbish bins out too early, and on and on and on...
He hasn't got a light sentence, he's got an Indeterminate Sentence that, in theory, could mean he spends his whole life in detention if he's still considered a risk to children or anyone else. The minimum is exactly that, a minimum possible length of time he can serve. Having worked with people similar he's very very unlikely to be out in 3 years or even in the ten years that Ottar mentions.
Beg your pardon, but, I will bet a pint he is out on the streets in less than 36 months. To repeat his crimes.
 
#19
RedCoat2009 said:
psychobabble said:
RedCoat2009 said:
Justice? What justice? In the UK today, there is no JUST in justice. we have seen dozens of examples of criminals getting only the lightest of sentences while decent, law abiding folk are crushed with severe penalties for heinous crimes, such as putting the rubbish bins out too early, and on and on and on...
He hasn't got a light sentence, he's got an Indeterminate Sentence that, in theory, could mean he spends his whole life in detention if he's still considered a risk to children or anyone else. The minimum is exactly that, a minimum possible length of time he can serve. Having worked with people similar he's very very unlikely to be out in 3 years or even in the ten years that Ottar mentions.
Beg your pardon, but, I will bet a pint he is out on the streets in less than 36 months. To repeat his crimes.
I bet you £5,000 he isn't. Want to put your money where your mouth is?
Just 3% of people with an indeterminate sentence have ever been released.
 
#20
2 charges of child rape and further sexual abuse and abduction = 3 years min? What the fcuk? Wheres the 30 years minimum?

I appreciate it is an indeterminate sentence and he may well do longer but what sort of 'minimum' is that?

I'm all for living in a liberal democracy and all that good stuff but there must be a point at which we have to say 'hold on, if someone is a threat to society they need to be punished then rehabilitated, if rehabilitation is not possible then just locked away for the rest of their lives for everyone else's sake'. I think we could do with taking a review of sentences, appeals/mitigating circumstances and firstly the idea of punishment before rehabilitation - and probably even the corporal punishment or the death sentence as a greater deterrent.
 

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