264 and 63 Signals (SAS) are they actually SAS or Signals?

#1
Quote (http://www.eliteukforces.info/18-UKSF-Signals/264-sas-squadron/)

"The men of 264 (SAS) Signals are part of the Royal Corps of Signals and have not gone through SAS selection, although they do have to pass the Special Forces Communicator (SFC) selection course. 264 Signals are now under the umbrella of 18 UKSF Signals Regiment."

But- this is what they have to pass....


Quote (http://www.eliteukforces.info/special-air-service/sas-reserves/#selection)

"SAS (R) Selection
Selection is open to men over 18 and under 32 (or under 35 for those with military experience) who are fit and do not have a criminal record. Selection itself consists of a series of physical tests run over a series of weeknights and weekends, in keeping with the part-time nature of TA units.

Selection consists of the following phases:

1. APTITUDE

Physical and mental stamina, along with navigational ability are stretched to the limit over series of tests. The aptitude phase culminates with a 64 kilometer march, with a 60lbs bergen, over the Brecon Beacons in Wales. Aptitude consists of:

9 x weekends of endurance training.
1 x week endurance training in the Brecon Beacons.
1 x week assessment (Test Week) in the Beacons.

2. STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE (SOP) TRAINING
Instruction in UKSF SOP'S and tactics comprises of:

9 x weekends patrol SOP's including surveillance and reconnaissance.
1 x week live firing including patrol contact drills and Tp offensive action.
1 x 9 day battle camp comprising:
Live firing assessment.
Field training exercise to test the skills learned throughout Selection. This culminates in Conduct after Capture (CAC).
On successful completion of this training, ranks are badged as SAS(R) and are assigned to their respective units for continuation training.

SAS(R) CONTINUATION TRAINING
Candidates who successfully complete Selection will enter a period of probation and must complete the following courses to be fit for mobilisation.

Basic Parachute Course.
SF Communications Course.
Main Training Period.
Once successfully through continuation training, SAS(R) soldiers will undergo periodic UKSF Military Annual training Tests (MATTs) and Main Training Periods. Additional qualifications can be sought throughout the SAS(R) soldier's career:

Patrol Medics
Enhanced Surveillance and Reconnaissance
Languages
Emergency Close Air Support
Support Weapons
Close Protection
"

So surely they are SAS because they've done nearly the same as 21 and 23?? Would one have a right in either of the two to feel they are in the SAS?
 
#3
PTS265 said:
Why, Does it matter?

Want to tell daddy you're one of "THEM"?
There are a lot of things on this forum that probably dont matter. The point is that a forum is for discussion- so ive just asked a question. If you cant give a proper answer- dont bother....

My point is if i saw XXX (SAS) i would think they are SAS, however the author of that website seems to take probably-deserved credit away from them.
 
#5
Gremlin said:
Oh FFS, why are you even asking this?
Because im trying to find out the difference in selection between 21/23 and 63. They seem to have the same physical selection yet that website gives the impression 63 selection is not as hard??
 
#6
26463SAS said:
Gremlin said:
Oh FFS, why are you even asking this?
Because im trying to find out the difference in selection between 21/23 and 63. They seem to have the same physical selection yet that website gives the impression 63 selection is not as hard??
Well if you want to rely on info from a site like this, you deserve all the shit that will be incoming:



Domain ID: D13743390-LRMS
Domain Name: ELITEUKFORCES.INFO
Created On: 10-Jun-2006 03:03:08 UTC
Last Updated On: 12-Jan-2007 15:25:20 UTC
Expiration Date: 10-Jun-2008 03:03:08 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar: Wild West Domains (R213-LRMS)
Status: CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status: CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status: CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status: CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID: GODA-020894225
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX: +1.4806242599
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email: ELITEUKFORCES.INFO@domainsbyproxy.com
Admin ID: GODA-220894225
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Admin Street1: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Admin Street3:
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX: +1.4806242599
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email: ELITEUKFORCES.INFO@domainsbyproxy.com
Billing ID: GODA-320894225
Billing Name: Registration Private
Billing Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Billing Street1: DomainsByProxy.com
Billing Street2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Billing Street3:
Billing City: Scottsdale
Billing State/Province: Arizona
Billing Postal Code: 85260
Billing Country: US
Billing Phone: +1.4806242599
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX: +1.4806242599
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email: ELITEUKFORCES.INFO@domainsbyproxy.com
Tech ID: GODA-120894225
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Tech Street1: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Tech Street3:
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX: +1.4806242599
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email: ELITEUKFORCES.INFO@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: NS2.WEB-MANIA.COM
Name Server: NS1.WEB-MANIA.COM





Now go away and do some proper research!
 
#7
26463SAS said:
Because im trying to find out the difference in selection between 21/23 and 63.
One is Infantry types who may support SAS at times one may provide signal support to SAS.

Ultimately the difference is not whether you have to do more to get in either camp but what you want to do concentrate on sigs or inf skills.

Remember neither will ever measure up to 49 Para, so secret you will only find "them" referenced on EBay! :wink:
 
#8
Phone them up and ask.

msr
 
#9
And change your name if you want to be taken seriously.
 
#11
26463SAS said:
So surely they are SAS because they've done nearly the same as 21 and 23?? Would one have a right in either of the two to feel they are in the SAS?
I hear the alarm...................................it's getting louder........................



WALT ALERT :1: :party: :boogie: :clap:
 
#13
4th_of_foot said:
26463SAS said:
So surely they are SAS because they've done nearly the same as 21 and 23?? Would one have a right in either of the two to feel they are in the SAS?
This is what you want Mate,

Walt Gear

Ooops, sorry wrong colour
No you were right the first time for 63 and 264
 
#15
26463SAS said:
The men of 264 (SAS) Signals
Right mate this is the bobby moore, 264 is the code name for a top secret group of soldiers that wear their berets at a funny angle to confuse the enemy and are part of UKSF "War Signals Group". 63, as has been mentioned, are part of 49 Para Reserve and are permitted to wear their berets at an obtuse angle as opposed to the actue angle of 264. Both these units are "feeder" units for 27 SAS boat troop. They all train with German GSG8 WaltenKommando and the Italian Riggatoni Alpine Specials.

I hope that has helped.
 
#16
When my brother was a member of 63 (SAS) Sis Sqn, he was definately R SIGNALS and not SAS. The big clue was his R SIGNALS cap badge.
 
#17
(Slight smugness creeping in) but did'nt I make a post about this sort of thing not so long ago since? :salut:
 
#18
ViolentBadger said:
26463SAS said:
The men of 264 (SAS) Signals
Right mate this is the bobby moore, 264 is the code name for a top secret group of soldiers that wear their berets at a funny angle to confuse the enemy and are part of UKSF "War Signals Group". 63, as has been mentioned, are part of 49 Para Reserve and are permitted to wear their berets at an obtuse angle as opposed to the actue angle of 264. Both these units are "feeder" units for 27 SAS boat troop. They all train with German GSG8 WaltenKommando and the Italian Riggatoni Alpine Specials.

I hope that has helped.
If you check your mil history aswell, you'll find that the italian unit was set up on request from the italian government by the CO of the former Royal East Anglian Mountain and Arctic Rangers aka REAMAR's (sadly no longer as amalgamated with another unit of the same unquestionable calibre. Can't remeber which one though :?: ....any other mil historians care to help me out?
 
#20
Being attached to the SAS providing support is like being attached to 16 air assault...you may of done p company and wear the same colour beret .... But your not a para.... On that note though hats off to anyone who passes the course !
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
S Royal Signals 15
chalkntalk Royal Signals 404
T Royal Signals 74

Similar threads

Latest Threads