26/03/20 RN monitoring Russian Warships in North sea & Channel

mcphee1948

Old-Salt
Are there really any Russian warships sailing in the North Sea, or the English Channel?
 
Would this be an RN-only op or would the French, Belgians and Dutch be contributing to the monitoring?
 

mcphee1948

Old-Salt
What are Russian warships even doing sailing around Europe?
 

mcphee1948

Old-Salt
Looking for somewhere to breakdown?
Haven't the Russians got their "Northern Fleet" so they don't need to sail south.
 
Interesting that we need two tankers to support our ships. Unless the main job is to keep the OPV's on station?
I think it's a case of what can we put to sea with radar and comms. We are not exactly flush with destroyers and frigates these days. Hence the OPV's being used to intercept the Russian Navy. Those bloody Russians do pick the most inconvenient of times to do things like this.

I saw an AWAC / sentry doing circuits over the north sea, a bit further south than usual as well (on ads exchange) plus a lone typhoon also doing circuits around the wash, might have been QRA.
 
Are there really any Russian warships sailing in the North Sea, or the English Channel?
Unlikely, given that the 'breaking news' was about a series of events 10 days previously.


What are Russian warships even doing sailing around Europe?
Exercising free right of passage in international waters, like every other navy.

Haven't the Russians got their "Northern Fleet" so they don't need to sail south.
Why bob around the frozen waters of the Arctic when you can go to warmer climes, particularly if you're potentially coming out of, or going into, the Baltic rather than the Kara Sea?

Stamp depicting Lance Corporal Jones with the caption 'Don't panic ! Don't panic!'.
 
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Is it 'unusual' activity because none of the seven Russians has broken down yet?
I was slightly surprised that we still have nine effective vessels in the right area , at the quoted time.

Maybe our Sea Lords and masters are doing a fantastic job with the absolute minimum assets.
 

bob231

War Hero
‘Scuse me for the bone Pongo question, but isn’t this type of thing what Maritime Patrol Aircraft are for?

;)
It depends what you want to do. If it's just "shadow the Russians as they drive down the Channel slowly burning their rubbish in Quarterdeck bonfires and leaking oil everywhere", an MPA doesn't really have the endurance.

It is a task very much within the capability and indeed design intent of an OPV. It's a rather expensive task done with a frigate or destroyer, particularly when shadowing a smaller Russian vessel.
 
Dunno if it happens now but - I remember when we would put upturned dustbins or whatever on the upperdeck and partially cover with tarp...
Cue lots of photographs of our new "top secret" bit of kit that wasn't on the phots in the last Janes.

Can there be some sort of official announcment please that - the cold war actually never ended and we, and the Russians have continued the same shennanigans all along??

I've even heard the Russians are now booking into hotels where the RAF are at and sticking towels on the sunbeds before daybreak....that's serious shit that is.
 

wafubustard

War Hero
We still make up shit to put on empty plinths to give the impression that we have new unseen kit.

I have witnessed that quite recently.
 

Deserter

On ROPS
On ROPs
Are there really any Russian warships sailing in the North Sea, or the English Channel?
Ha, even if there were so what? if the Navy wants a proper job they need to station themselves between Ramsgate and Calais, but they won't...this is a fig leaf and a distraction, no one in England cares what the Russian Navy is doing off our coast. now

But they do care about those tramps living in the forests of France with eyes on England especially now. The Navy and the MOD are a joke.
 

Deserter

On ROPS
On ROPs
double post
 
As I started off on US carriers in this thread, might as well keep going. I'm not sure a 48 hour lockdown is of any use?

'There are now more than 30 cases of coronavirus aboard the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Fox News has exclusively learned, as well as another aircraft carrier reporting infections for the first time onboard.

'U.S officials say the number of cases on board is expected to rise in the coming days. Three days ago, there were only three known cases onboard. The aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt pulled into Guam about 12 hours ago (Friday morning local time). Despite the U.S. Navy’s top officer calling the port call “previously-scheduled" in a statement Thursday afternoon, a U.S. official says the carrier’s scheduled maintenance stop in Guam was “moved up a few days” because of the virus outbreak.

'Fox News has also learned another aircraft carrier in the region has reported cases of the virus on board. The USS Ronald Reagan, currently in port in Japan, has two sailors on board that have tested positive. The new positive cases have forced the entire naval base outside Tokyo, where Ronald Reagan is based, to be locked down through the weekend. Everyone on the base has been told to remain indoors for the next 48 hours, officials say.'


 

bob231

War Hero
It does at least increase your chances of spotting the infected.

It has been "business as usual" for us, admittedly with more gapping than usual for a high-priority unit. This doesn't matter very much when you're short a random grab bag of ABs and ETs but becomes a bore quite quickly when you start losing watchkeepers or key bods (thankfully none of the Officers of the Watch have had to self-isolate yet). Measures are in place but with 85% recirculated air and no realistic means to socially distance, there is only so much one can reduce the risk on board.
 
It does at least increase your chances of spotting the infected.

It has been "business as usual" for us, admittedly with more gapping than usual for a high-priority unit. This doesn't matter very much when you're short a random grab bag of ABs and ETs but becomes a bore quite quickly when you start losing watchkeepers or key bods (thankfully none of the Officers of the Watch have had to self-isolate yet). Measures are in place but with 85% recirculated air and no realistic means to socially distance, there is only so much one can reduce the risk on board.
Further update on USS Theodore Roosevelt.

'The United States Navy will evacuate the majority of the USS Theodore Roosevelt’s more than 4,000-member crew to disinfect the aircraft carrier following an outbreak of novel Coronavirus onboard. The announcement came a day after the ship’s commander, Captain Brett Crozier, implored the U.S. Navy to enable him to evacuate his sailors in a dramatic four-page letter leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle.

'The Teddy Roosevelt, a massive Nimitz-class carrier, was ordered into port in Guam last week following the discovery of a coronavirus outbreak on board. Initially, symptomatic personnel were offloaded while others were ordered to self-quarantine for fourteen days. Acting U.S. Navy Secretary Thomas Modly said last week the entire crew would be tested onboard the ship.

'Captain Crozier wrote in his letter on Monday that those measures were not working. “With the exception of a handful of senior officer staterooms, none of the berthing onboard a warship is appropriate for quarantine or isolation” the captain wrote. “The spread of the disease is ongoing and accelerating. We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset — our Sailors.”

'Acting Secretary Modly described challenges posed by the evacuation during an interview with CNN on Tuesday, saying the U.S. had been seeking ways to disembark most the crew for days. “The problem is that Guam doesn’t have enough beds right now, so were having to talk to the government there to see if we can get some hotel space, create some tent-type facilities there,” Modly said. “We don’t disagree with the C[ommanding] O[fficer],” he added.'



While COVID-19 on a submarine must be even more concerning for crew members.

'A Dutch submarine running exercises off the coast of Scotland will return to the Netherlands earlier than planned after eight crew members tested positive for coronavirus. The naval vessel Zr.Ms. Dolfijn was sailing from Scotland to Den Helder, Noord-Holland on Monday evening with all 58 of its crew onboard, the Defense Ministry said in a statement.

'One of those who tested positive for the virus was still showing symptoms of Covid-19. That person was coughing and had a fever. Some of the other seven had previously shown similar complaints. Another seven also had mild flu symptoms, but their tests had not shown a positive result for coronavirus, the ministry said. Upon return to the Netherlands the entire crew will be placed in quarantine. The Dolfijn's exercises were supposed to continue for another two weeks. Everyone on the vessel is in good spirits, the ministry added.'


 

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