22 FD HOSP

#4
can be a clicky unit, if you're not part of the cadre staff then you're not part of the team. well that was my experience in '99 anyway. could have changed.
 
#6
Top cover for what!!!! The cadre probably are clicky looking in from the outside, but that is because day to day whilst not on tour they are working and living together, like any normal unit. As a reinforcement firstly your not there mates prior to the tour and afterwards will go back to your own unit. The perception is that maybe your loyalty to the unit isn't equal to theres. They have ways and routines and the reinforcements "interfere" with that. Its human nature to resist change. So yes your probably right they are in a clique but that is natural. The benefits of that of course is they will provide the backbone, knowledge and structure to the unit. Fd Hosp are unique in the way they work. 100 strong in piece and upto 550 staff+200 casualties/patients on a full deployement. someone has to provide the C2 for the reinforcements. Its fair to say 202 TA had a miserable time on Telic 1 without a structured backbone of a cadre.
 
#7
I worked with 22 Fd Hosp on a couple of occasions, and they were fine. Helpful before (during the buildup and pre-deployment trg), friendly during the deployment - making people feel part of the unit, and they invited individual reinforcements to a party a while after we returned. I'd be happy to work with them again.
 
#8
22 Fd Hosp are a good bunch as far as I can tell - have not worked with them, but know some of the key personnel - CO is a top bloke, Ops Offr, Adj and RQMS are good guys and the RSM is the RSM - my impression is that he is firm but fair.
 
#10
22 Fd Hosp cream of the RAMC Fd Hosps, great unit (well most of the time), been with them on a few Ops and as previously posted on the forum its a unit that works bloody hard but then parties hard as well
 
#12
dml87 said:
I was told they were a RAF medic unit
is this a wah? when did the RAF start having field hospitals these days?
 
#13
ronin said:
22 Fd Hosp cream of the RAMC Fd Hosps
have you served with any of the others?
 
#14
RAF Tac Med Wg are providing the Hospital Sqn, and 22 Fd Hosp will be in overall charge of UK Med Gp - if you are doing top cover you will probably be attached to whoever is providing the blue light matrix.
 
#15
Filbert Fox said:
dml87 said:
I was told they were a RAF medic unit
is this a wah? when did the RAF start having field hospitals these days?
Since the Army have been unable to fully staff a Fd Hosp for quite some time both the RN and RAF have provided staff. Not forgetting, of course, the civilian nurses, such is the state of QA manning in some specialities.

This time the RAF are providing the majority of personnel and so they are commanding the hospital unit.
 

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#16
ronin said:
22 Fd Hosp cream of the RAMC Fd Hosps, great unit (well most of the time), been with them on a few Ops and as previously posted on the forum its a unit that works bloody hard but then parties hard as well
"Cream"- It didnt sour recently then when your RSI tipped up? :wink:
 
#17
ViroBono said:
Filbert Fox said:
dml87 said:
I was told they were a RAF medic unit
is this a wah? when did the RAF start having field hospitals these days?
Since the Army have been unable to fully staff a Fd Hosp for quite some time both the RN and RAF have provided staff. Not forgetting, of course, the civilian nurses, such is the state of QA manning in some specialities.

This time the RAF are providing the majority of personnel and so they are commanding the hospital unit.
its still an Army field hospital regardless of who the majority of staff are.
 
#18
Filbert Fox said:
ronin said:
22 Fd Hosp cream of the RAMC Fd Hosps
have you served with any of the others?
FF, Not served with others but have supported 33, 34 and 22 on various taskings when deployed with another unit, so I may be biased in my view, when I was at 22, it was worked hard as a unit but the bods there made it a good experience, as with most units its what you make of it that counts.
 
#19
Filbert Fox said:
dml87 said:
I was told they were a RAF medic unit
is this a wah? when did the RAF start having field hospitals these days?
Although not a Fd Hosp as most Army medics would see it, the RAF on Op Oracle had a hospital(ish) set up in Oman, Thumrait. In fact they operated on several casualties flown from Afghanistan, were proud that it was the first time a completely RAF run operational unit had operated on real casualties since WWII.
 
#20
All this talk of the RAF providing the majority of the Hosp is pish and piffle.... They are providing less than 40 % of the Hosp manning (remove the Comd element and about 1/3 of the Hosp is RAF). The fact is that while the RAF initially signed up to provide the Hosp complete (ish) they have fallen short of the mark (Admitted they were called in to help out the Army)

Overall manning of the Med Gp is less than 20% RAF, regardless of these figures with the "state of the nation" for our clinical staff we need a tri service hospital on every deployment.

If anything due to the diversity of the Med Gp staff, it has pulled them all closer together to get the job done.

Here is wishing them good luck and a "quiet tour"
 

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