216 Signal Squadron

#1
Hello,

I am about to apply for the Royal Signals to join as an officer, I specifically want to join 216 signals and serve with the paras. Do I specify this from the very beginning or is it even possible to specify this?

Thanks for any help.
 
#4
james236 said:
duffdike said:
No. Get commissioned before you go Walty. In fact don't mention it at all.
Okay, why do you say not to mention it at all?
James236 - There's a few ex- 216 guys on this site. Standby, they'll catch up with your query. All the very best of luck to you.
 
#5
james236 said:
duffdike said:
No. Get commissioned before you go Walty. In fact don't mention it at all.
Okay, why do you say not to mention it at all?
Please ignore duffdike - he's a waste of skin who would be doing the site a favour if he drank a litre of phenol and shoved his head in a bucket of acid.
 
#6
duffdike said:
No. Get commissioned before you go Walty. In fact don't mention it at all.
Dont listen to this piece of womb lining.
Flag up your interest when asked, keep your ears open for info regarding beat up, course content ect and gauge your probability of success on how you fare physically and mentally during basic.
 
#7
Although perfectly admirable it opens the door to all kinds of awkward questions at interviews and at RMAS. Trust me on this. The obvious question is why you don't want to join the Para Reg. There is also a danger that you might inadvertently create the impression that the rest of the fine corps you are joining are crap hats. In a Corps you get posted hither and thither. Para Signals for officers is an option for one or two postings only. The real questions will be about your suitability to get into RMAS at all and thence into R Sigs. Concentrate on those. It is only later as the Signals start asking for your input you can volunteer. It also avoids looking a complete mong if you are crappy at Sandhurst. Once a lot of cadets have tabbed over the beacons or whatever they do they decide that maybe the infantry isn't for them after all. lol.
 
#9
duffdike said:
Although perfectly admirable it opens the door to all kinds of awkward questions at interviews and at RMAS. Trust me on this. The obvious question is why you don't want to join the Para Reg. There is also a danger that you might inadvertently create the impression that the rest of the fine corps you are joining are crap hats. In a Corps you get posted hither and thither. Para Signals for officers is an option for one or two postings only. The real questions will be about your suitability to get into RMAS at all and thence into R Sigs. Concentrate on those. It is only later as the Signals start asking for your input you can volunteer. It also avoids looking a complete mong if you are crappy at Sandhurst. Once a lot of cadets have tabbed over the beacons or whatever they do they decide that maybe the infantry isn't for them after all. lol.
Again, your opinions on this are just like your much adored comments on operational matters, ie, that you have had no experience of or have any similar experience of. 29, 7, 13, 23, 9 ect ect all happily and regularly receive good calibre individuals straight from RMAS, a polite enquiry and statement of possible intention cant do any harm. But again, without the experience of an ardous course or 2 you wouldnt know would you ! :)
 
#10
duffdike said:
Although perfectly admirable it opens the door to all kinds of awkward questions at interviews and at RMAS. Trust me on this. The obvious question is why you don't want to join the Para Reg. There is also a danger that you might inadvertently create the impression that the rest of the fine corps you are joining are crap hats. In a Corps you get posted hither and thither. Para Signals for officers is an option for one or two postings only. The real questions will be about your suitability to get into RMAS at all and thence into R Sigs. Concentrate on those. It is only later as the Signals start asking for your input you can volunteer. It also avoids looking a complete mong if you are crappy at Sandhurst. Once a lot of cadets have tabbed over the beacons or whatever they do they decide that maybe the infantry isn't for them after all. lol.

That seems to me to be a piece of first class advice for this young man. Why couldn't you have proffered that first? You are eminently sensible when you want to be.
 
#11
Alec_Lomas said:
duffdike said:
Although perfectly admirable it opens the door to all kinds of awkward questions at interviews and at RMAS. Trust me on this. The obvious question is why you don't want to join the Para Reg. There is also a danger that you might inadvertently create the impression that the rest of the fine corps you are joining are crap hats. In a Corps you get posted hither and thither. Para Signals for officers is an option for one or two postings only. The real questions will be about your suitability to get into RMAS at all and thence into R Sigs. Concentrate on those. It is only later as the Signals start asking for your input you can volunteer. It also avoids looking a complete mong if you are crappy at Sandhurst. Once a lot of cadets have tabbed over the beacons or whatever they do they decide that maybe the infantry isn't for them after all. lol.

That seems to me to be a piece of first class advice for this young man. Why couldn't you have proffered that first? You are eminently sensible when you want to be.
Because it's far easier for him to be a knobber.
 
#12
Excellent well it would seem the thing to do is keep schtum until they come asking and in the mean while concentrate on getting my head down and working hard.
 
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GLESGA-NED

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#14
When I was at the Sqn 99 - 2001 all Tp OC's came directly from RMAS done their 5/6 week attachment, went on to the troopies cse then came back to the sqn to attempt P Coy. I must say at the time not all the officers were para trained, but hey that was 10 years ago and things might have changed.
 
#15
back in 1936, or whenever it was I was at RMAS, if you mentioned anything about para you were doomed as the Csgt/RSMs thought you thought you were thinkin that you were better/fitter/more 'ard than they were. And the para NCO's disowned the daft buggers who admitted it....apart from the guys who'd done p/co already.........
 
#16
billywhizzuk said:
back in 1936, or whenever it was I was at RMAS, if you mentioned anything about para you were doomed as the Csgt/RSMs thought you thought you were thinkin that you were better/fitter/more 'ard than they were. And the para NCO's disowned the daft buggers who admitted it....apart from the guys who'd done p/co already.........
Yup. This is another reason to keep schtum. I never said that they couldn't go straight from RMAS to 216 btw. I just said not to spell it out too early in the process. Seems an odd thing though. To put all your least experienced troop leaders in there. But hey. That's the Signals.
 
#17
duffdike said:
billywhizzuk said:
back in 1936, or whenever it was I was at RMAS, if you mentioned anything about para you were doomed as the Csgt/RSMs thought you thought you were thinkin that you were better/fitter/more 'ard than they were. And the para NCO's disowned the daft buggers who admitted it....apart from the guys who'd done p/co already.........
Yup. This is another reason to keep schtum. I never said that they couldn't go straight from RMAS to 216 btw. I just said not to spell it out too early in the process. Seems an odd thing though. To put all your least experienced troop leaders in there. But hey. That's the Signals.
As opposed to the Para Reg putting all those experienced Platoon Commanders into their first jobs. The Royal Signals encourages all Officers and Soldiers to apply for posts with 216, 18 SR and 1 (RBY) Sig Sqn - go look in SOinC's PD206.
 
#18
I've read this thread with great interest as I too am hoping for selection to 216 squadron. I've come to the conclusion that i'll keep my mouth shut till pushed for an answer, but in that case i presume it's purely regiment they ask for and nothing futher. i start RMAS in jan and therefore am weighing it all up carefully...
 
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GLESGA-NED

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#19
duffdike said:
billywhizzuk said:
back in 1936, or whenever it was I was at RMAS, if you mentioned anything about para you were doomed as the Csgt/RSMs thought you thought you were thinkin that you were better/fitter/more 'ard than they were. And the para NCO's disowned the daft buggers who admitted it....apart from the guys who'd done p/co already.........
Yup. This is another reason to keep schtum. I never said that they couldn't go straight from RMAS to 216 btw. I just said not to spell it out too early in the process. Seems an odd thing though. To put all your least experienced troop leaders in there. But hey. That's the Signals.
Your statement has baffled me :? All new Tp OC's must start somewhere. Where do the Parachute Regiment send their officers to get experience? The Marines? :roll:
 
#20
GLESGA-NED said:
duffdike said:
billywhizzuk said:
back in 1936, or whenever it was I was at RMAS, if you mentioned anything about para you were doomed as the Csgt/RSMs thought you thought you were thinkin that you were better/fitter/more 'ard than they were. And the para NCO's disowned the daft buggers who admitted it....apart from the guys who'd done p/co already.........
Yup. This is another reason to keep schtum. I never said that they couldn't go straight from RMAS to 216 btw. I just said not to spell it out too early in the process. Seems an odd thing though. To put all your least experienced troop leaders in there. But hey. That's the Signals.
Your statement has baffled me :? All new Tp OC's must start somewhere. Where do the Parachute Regiment send their officers to get experience? The Marines? :roll:
As an outsider to the strategic issue of how the Royal Signals employs its young officers :), the two things are not the same. The principal role of a signaller is to signal.To that extent the young troop leaders must by definition be inexperienced. Para officers are simply fit infantry officers with the additional skill of "urling theirselves out of haircraft". No extra experience or qualification is needed. But don't stress. My original concern with the OP was that he may not have understood that in the large Corps the officers can not simply pick one unit and join it for the duration. That may have been a misunderstanding.
 

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