2020 United States presidential election

[Sam The Bam]

With regards to Biden and Sanders, I remember folks laughing at the thought of Trump becoming President so it wouldn't surprise me if either Biden or Sanders were to win.


@redshift " Like I always say, open forum comments from people who don't really have jack sh-it in the matter means f-all."

Which means any comment you make on this subject means nothing because you aren't and never have been an American citizen.

 

[TXSapper]

I live in a heavily, heavily democrat area - for years, most have described themselves as 'Moderates' and cringe at Socialism being connected with them. The new norm is 'Its Democratic socialism...its not the same' and 'all communism isn't bad'.

Luckily I think California is much further left than the rest of the country and I still think All Democrats will vote in big numbers for him ( if he gets the nomination) - I still dont see them flipping swing states though.

 

[Drlligaf]

The new norm is 'Its Democratic socialism...its not the same' and 'all communism isn't bad'.

That reminds me of what happened to the former East German communist party post re-unification. They called themselves the Partei des demokratischen Sozialismus, party of democratic socialism. On closer inspection they were merely communists with a better flavour. The party has since morphed into die Linke, the left. Still communists at heart.
Let the Californians beware. Inflicting misery on themselves is one thing, inflicting on the rest of the nation is something else. But then as has already been implied on this thread, what foreigners (non US citizens) say does not matter.

 

[UKTAP]

With regards to Biden and Sanders, I remember folks laughing at the thought of Trump becoming President so it wouldn't surprise me if either Biden or Sanders were to win.


@redshift " Like I always say, open forum comments from people who don't really have jack sh-it in the matter means f-all."

Which means any comment you make on this subject means nothing because you aren't and never have been an American citizen.

The only people who didn't think Trump could win were lefties and the MSM in their echo chambers.

Unless the electorate undergoes a seismic shift, Bernie has zero chance.

Yes, I would be willing to bet money on it.

 

[TXSapper]

That reminds me of what happened to the former East German communist party post re-unification. They called themselves the Partei des demokratischen Sozialismus, party of democratic socialism. On closer inspection they were merely communists with a better flavour. The party has since morphed into die Linke, the left. Still communists at heart.
Let the Californians beware. Inflicting misery on themselves is one thing, inflicting on the rest of the nation is something else. But then as has already been implied on this thread, what foreigners (non US citizens) say does not matter.

Well put

 

[Gun_Brickie]

The Democrats really are as retarded as they sound.

After fielding the worst presidental candidate in history, the have learnt precisely nothing and are set to field the one person they could find who is even worse. Unbelievable.

All they have to do is field a relatively normal person, and they'd win. But they are hell bent on selecting a hard-left retard who was dogshit in his heyday, but is now past it and practically on death's door.

Why does the left have such an obsession with self-destruction?

It doesn't help the Democrats when they have idiots like Shaun King running around loose with unbroken fingers so he can tweet his idiocy as he touts for Sanders.


And in case anyone wonders who Shaun King is, he's a white male who "identifies" as black and has been blessed with the nickname "Talcum X"

 

[Goldbricker]

The only people who didn't think Trump could win were lefties and the MSM in their echo chambers.

Unless the electorate undergoes a seismic shift, Bernie has zero chance.

Yes, I would be willing to bet money on it.

I've been a GOP voter since the first time I could vote (Reagan in 80). I was gobsmacked the night trump won (and since the Presidential election was a choice between 2 schmucks I refused to vote that year. I will not vote for president this year either


Bernie is way too old
Biden acts like he has alzheimer's already
Lieawatha is too Khmer Rouge with her threats
yet I still dont see trump winning again as it goes against all logic

 

[Goldbricker]

It doesn't help the Democrats when they have idiots like Shaun King running around loose with unbroken fingers so he can tweet his idiocy as he touts for Sanders.


And in case anyone wonders who Shaun King is, he's a white male who "identifies" as black and has been blessed with the nickname "Talcum X"

Ahh Talcum X the faux black man

 

[Nomad1382]

That reminds me of what happened to the former East German communist party post re-unification. They called themselves the Partei des demokratischen Sozialismus, party of democratic socialism. On closer inspection they were merely communists with a better flavour. The party has since morphed into die Linke, the left. Still communists at heart.
Let the Californians beware. Inflicting misery on themselves is one thing, inflicting on the rest of the nation is something else. But then as has already been implied on this thread, what foreigners (non US citizens) say does not matter.

Agree, well put and I only disagree with the last sentence. It‘s different perspective and there’s some interesting things brought up I’ve not thought of. I’m not a fan of Trump and I’m not even sure he’s the lesser of evils, but the left here has gone so far left it’s scary. I’ll say about this election what I said about the 2016 one, as an American I’m embarrassed that these are the best candidates we can come up with.

 

[Drlligaf]

as an American I’m embarrassed that these are the best candidates we can come up with.

This may be not much comfort to you, but Europe is not a lot better and in some cases arguably worse.
Having said that, in the last US election I had the impression that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats wanted to win as they both put forward the worst possible candidates. Although while Trump can be truly cringe worthy at times, I don't think he's all bad. My 10 cents worth (€ or $).

 

[Nomad1382]

10p worth? And I agree and like Goldbricker, I didn’t vote and probably won’t again this year.

 

[Steamboat]

 

[Nomad1382]

In Washington state in the 70s there was the Owl Party with the slogan “Who gives a Hoot?”

 

[Steamboat]

In Washington state in the 70s there was the Owl Party with the slogan “Who gives a Hoot?”

It is either going to be the bigly cheeto vs the commie or Lazarus.
My money is on the Donald!

 

[TXSapper]

10p worth? And I agree and like Goldbricker, I didn’t vote and probably won’t again this year.

I dont care for the tweeting, the trolling amuses me and I think he flat out lies about being a man of faith - but SCOTUS nominations are far too important to be left to wannabe commies and me too activists.

 

[Nomad1382]

If Bernie doesn’t get nominated it will be the pussy grabber v. The grope...good choices!

 

[Steamboat]

If Bernie doesn’t get nominated it will be the pussy grabber v. The grope...good choices!

If Biden gets the nomination I imagine his sons dealings with Ukraine will become very public very quickly.

 

[Steamboat]

If Bernie doesn’t get nominated it will be the pussy grabber v. The grope...good choices!

 

[Goldbricker]

If Biden gets the nomination I imagine his sons dealings with Ukraine will become very public very quickly.

And should

Several lines of questioning arise

A- Just what influence did Malarkey Joe use to get Hunter into the US Navy as a Commissioned Officer? (Hunter was overage and had a prior drug conviction)

B- Why did Burisma hire a man dishonorably discharged a month before, to it's board of Directors who had no previous experience in the energy industry, or geology?

C- Why was Malarkey Joe's threat (on film and he admits to) to withholding Aid unless the prosecutor investigating Burisma and his son was fired, not a Quid Pro Quo to the Obama DoJ?

 

[Sam The Bam]

The only people who didn't think Trump could win were lefties and the MSM in their echo chambers.

Unless the electorate undergoes a seismic shift, Bernie has zero chance.

Yes, I would be willing to bet money on it.

What makes you think Bernie has zero chance. He did really well the last time around and may have been the presidential candidate if he hadn't been screwed over by his own party in favour of Clinton.

From what I'm reading and hearing a lot of the young liberals prefer Bernie over Biden.