2020 United States presidential election

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I know, I know we don’t really need another show business thread to gossip about American ‘sleb kulture’ but I’ve created it anyway.

Here we can ask our American friends to explain democracy at its outer lints. The best system of choosing government that money can buy.

I’ve been watching the reports about the selection of a Democrat candidate. I can only assume that, like our Labour Party, the Democrat Party members prefer another 4 years of Trump and that they’re choosing a candidate that allows them to virtue signal but maintains the current leadership.
 
I'm mildly impressed that, from the day Himself took office, the Democrats have had that time in which to get all their poo into one Carbon Neutral sock and ensure that the best candidate is in place.

So they (at the moment) appear to have come up with a 78-year old former independent who is 5 months out of a heart attack.

Only in 'Murrca!
 
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I'm mildly impressed that, from the day Himself took office, the Democrats have had that tinme in which to get all their poo into one Carbon Neutral sock and ensure that the best candidate is in place.

So they (at the moment) appear to have come up with a 78-year old former independent who is 5 months out of a heart attack.

Only in 'Murrca!
Glad its not just me, I was thinking WTF that is a really old guy!
 
Does Bernie have an allotment and cycle? Suspicious lot these Vegetarians!
 
The other Dem candidates really did a number on Michael Bloomberg in that debate. Why does he bother?

If I had that dude's money, I'd be on my private Caribbean island, licking tequila from a hookers navel, right beside a big pile of snow that Alberto Tomba couldn't ski down.
 
Does Bernie have an allotment and cycle? Suspicious lot these Vegetarians!
I have no idea, but the idiot is discussing how Glorious the Cuban Revolution was. If he gets the Democratic nomination, I can then turn the TV off because the election is over.
 
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I have no idea, but the idiot is discussing how Glorious the Cuban Revolution was. If he gets the Democratic nomination, I can then turn the TV off because the election is over.
The Dems seem to be in denial. When I have mentioned to California Dem relatives that a half decent candidate would have wiped the floor with Trump they go into rhapsodies about how wonderful la Clinton is. (The reverse is also true for the GOP. A half decent candidate would have trounced Clinton not scraped through) Now they’re convinced Sanders is the second coming.

When I point out that he’ll loose the election that seems unimportant compared to hating Trump.

I’ve pointed out that a Trump victory now will probably lead to a Pence victory in 2024 which is a truly scary prospect.
 

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Anybody asked Vlad who he is putting up this time? He seems to have covered all the bases.
 
Trumpster to win a second term. The usual suspects on arrse to get pïssed off, and spend the next four years whinging about it.
 
The Dems seem to be in denial. When I have mentioned to California Dem relatives that a half decent candidate would have wiped the floor with Trump they go into rhapsodies about how wonderful la Clinton is. (The reverse is also true for the GOP. A half decent candidate would have trounced Clinton not scraped through) Now they’re convinced Sanders is the second coming.

When I point out that he’ll loose the election that seems unimportant compared to hating Trump.

I’ve pointed out that a Trump victory now will probably lead to a Pence victory in 2024 which is a truly scary prospect.
The Dems had four years to get there $hit together. Instead they are going for a radical that will make it a Patriotic duty to vote against him. America is not Europe, and those types of candidates will not fly here. The more hard left they go the more we will swing to the right. The Democratic Party is in shambles.
 
If The US equivalent of Corbyn runs for The Democrats, Bernie Sanders, Trump will win a second term.
 
The other Dem candidates really did a number on Michael Bloomberg in that debate. Why does he bother?

If I had that dude's money, I'd be on my private Caribbean island, licking tequila from a hookers navel, right beside a big pile of snow that Alberto Tomba couldn't ski down.
I suspect he’s the ‘Oh **** what have we done?’ candidate hoping that the Dem convention will realise that barring Trump being seen, live on TV, on the White House lawn engaged in depraved sexual activities with Vladimir Putin, His Holiness the Pope and Oprah before wiping himself down with a puppy and then shooting it, Sanders’s chances are somewhere between F-all and None. In a panic, they choose someone else - who will need to have vast amounts of money to wage their campaign at short notice. Namely him.

Unfortunately for Mr Bloomberg, he’s not realised that at present, the late emerging nominee is more likely to be Hillary, given the Democrats’ apparent belief that the Labour Party’s efforts since 2015 are a model to follow...
 
The thing to watch is the Black Vote count - up until now the Black vote has been traditionally Democrat with only 9% or so voting Republican. All the commentators agree that if the Republicans can double or tripple that vote count then the Democrats will never win power again. Flash forward to this year and Trumps economy has record low Black, Hispanic and Female unemployment anfd the average American family is $5K better of a year than it was under the last Democrat government - on top of that Trump has brought in Sentence reform which is releasing Black people who were locked up for huge amounts of time for very relatively low level crime.

The Democrats and the Democrat Main Stream Media (New York Times/CNN/MSNBC etc) are now in total panic because they know that none of the current candidates and especially Bernie Sanders will become President with their far left policies - open borders, illegal immigrants to get free education, college debt written off, weapons ban, abortion up to 9 months and including birth and the piece de resistance the Green New Deal which will ban all aircraft and cars and fossil fuels which would decimate the ecomomy and millions would lose their jobs when the factories are shut.

To illustrate the stupidity of the millionaire with 3 homes Socialist Bernie Sanders, he wants a $15 minimum wage + 15x40hrs =$600 per week x 52 = $31200 BUT he also wants anyone earning over 30K to pay tax of 52% which would leave the minimum wage employee $14976 to live on! - with smarts like that dont expect people to vote for him, unless you are a student who cant count!

For the avoidance of doubt Trump will win in Nov - the only question is whether he will regain the House and after Nancy Pelosi disgracefully publically ripped up his speech at the SoTU address and the impeachment fallacy many democrat voters have now turned away from their party in Disgust - especially when the Democrats refused to applaud the Black Tuskegee airman getting promoted to Brig, the young black girl getting a scholarship and the soldier returning home to his wive and children at the SoTU - most decent americans were extremely angry.
 
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I suspect he’s the ‘Oh **** what have we done?’ candidate
It's still far too early to tell. Apparently, Bill Clinton didn't win any of his first five or six primaries, did badly on Super Tuesday, still won the nomination (and the election). At this stage, twelve years ago, Clinton was the front-runner, not Obama.

I'll be surprised if Larry Sanders' brother is still the choice in a few months (he's certainly the dream choice for Trump) - and Elizabeth Warren looks quite plausible.
 

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The thing to watch is the Black Vote count - up until now the Black vote has been traditionally Democrat with only 9% or so voting Republican. All the commentators agree that if the Republicans can double or tripple that vote count then the Democrats will never win power again. Flash forward to this year and Trumps economy has record low Black, Hispanic and Female employment anfd the average American family is $5K better of a year than it was under the last Democrat government - on top of that Trump has brought in Sentence reform which is releasing Black people who were locked up for huge amounts of time for very relatively low level crime.

The Democrats and the Democrat Main Stream Media (New York Times/CNN/MSNBC etc) are now in total panic because they know that none of the current candidates and especially Bernie Sanders will become President with their far left policies - open borders, illegal immigrants to get free education, college debt written off, weapons ban, abortion up to 9 months and including birth and the piece de resistance the Green New Deal which will ban all aircraft and cars and fossil fuels which would decimate the ecomomy and millions would lose their jobs when the factories are shut.

To illustrate the stupidity of the millionaire with 3 homes Socialist Bernie Sanders, he wants a $15 minimum wage + 15x40hrs =$600 per week x 52 = $31200 BUT he also wants anyone earning over 30K to pay tax of 52% which would leave the minimum wage employee $14976 to live on! - with smarts like that dont expect people to vote for him, unless you are a student who cant count!

For the avoidance of doubt Trump will win in Nov - the only question is whether he will regain the House and after Nancy Pelosi disgracefully publically ripped up his speech at the SoTU address and the impeachment fallacy many democrat voters have now turned away from their party in Disgust - especially when the Democrats refused to applaud the Black Tuskegee airman getting promoted to Brig, the young black girl getting a scholarship and the soldier returning home to his wive and children at the SoTU - most decent americans were extremely angry.
Quite. For my California relative and her like minded friends their hatred of Trump is so extreme that it now defines them and they can’t see that it’s handing him another 4 years and that he’ll be replaced by Pence.

It’s almost as if Trump wasn’t there to hate they wouldn’t have identities.
 
It's still far too early to tell. Apparently, Bill Clinton didn't win any of his first five or six primaries, did badly on Super Tuesday, still won the nomination (and the election). At this stage, twelve years ago, Clinton was the front-runner, not Obama.

I'll be surprised if Larry Sanders' brother is still the choice in a few months (he's certainly the dream choice for Trump) - and Elizabeth Warren looks quite plausible.
Super Tuesday 3-3 should about wrap it up.
 

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By the way what do our American correspondents think of Buttgeig? From what I’ve seen I like the cut of his jib (good bit of jack speak there...)

Does he stand a chance? Could he be the candidate to unite the middle ground? Fiscally conservative, socially liberal.

What say you?
 
By the way what do our American correspondents think of Buttgeig? From what I’ve seen I like the cut of his jib (good bit of jack speak there...)

Does he stand a chance? Could he be the candidate to unite the middle ground? Fiscally conservative, socially liberal.

What say you?
Maybe in a decade or two. This is not the year for any attempt at moderation . If he could tone down the SJW bit, he would be an energetic candidate that would be more viable then the Biden, Sanders corpses.
 

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