200,000 lost asylum seekers may stay

#1
So where have they got to then????

Telegraph said:
200,000 'lost' asylum seekers may stay

More than 200,000 failed asylum seekers may stay in Britain indefinitely because they cannot be traced.

Officials have conceded that nearly half of the 450,000 "legacy cases" in which the applicants are left in limbo may never be cleared.

Ministers have flatly ruled out an amnesty and have pledged to remove everyone not entitled to be here within five years.

Some "legacy" cases date back 15 years and experts believe the Government will not be able to fulfil its pledge to clear the backlog by July 2011. Officials attending a recent meeting to discuss the legacy policy were told that half of the 450,000 are "untraceable".

They were also told that 18,000 foreign nationals who have committed crimes in Britain were earmarked for deportation, the first time an official figure has been given.

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Definition of New Labour Immigration Policy:- Ooooops!
 
#3
Quel surprise!
 
#4
Perhaps, eventually, maybe, somebody will think of tracing them via benifits & the tax system - nobody stays on the 'black' for 15 years.

Or perhaps we can assume that these are deserving cases and instead we export 200 000 of our long term benefit claimants out into Africa via the VSO for a four year tour, invigorating rural Africa’s self confidence by dispelling any myths about the white man.
 
#5
ID-cards would resolve the problem nicely.
 
#6
ID cards are not the answer, a properly organized and disciplined system in the appropriate government department headed by a person with more than two or three working brain cells is the answer!
 
#8
If we lost them in the first place, it must follow that we don't know where they are now. If we dont know where they are now, how in fcuks name can we tell whether they have stayed or not? Damn silly if you ask me!

As for Immigration policy we have a good one. Come here, work for peanuts, commit crime, claim social benefits, have a cigar..........meanwhile under Waterloo Bridge are a hundred ex-servicemen who have been f*ucked off by "right on" councils, who cant get a job, social housing and benefits.

Look after your own first.
 
#9
KGB_resident said:
ID-cards would resolve the problem nicely.
We can't have that! What will happen to the immigration industry, all of the legal aid lawyers, the translators dealing with multiple claims from the same people, the DSS cons who claim at different offices, the multiple NI numbers scam, the cash in hand boys, the identity theft guys who steal your credit card details, the illegal drivers who give false details and the fact it may reveal how many people are actually IN this country!
 
#10
Fkn W@NKERS - it makes my hate for the FKRS run through my blood even faster.

Lets start slotting the fkrs. FAST.

BT.
 
#11
"If we lost them in the first place, it must follow that we don't know where they are now."

They haven't lost them - their applications are in a neat pile in Croydon ready for the word. All those Balti chefs imported for £10.000 down and then replaced with a new intake every 3 months.......I am surprised the Home Office doesn't simply sell the work permits in bulk....oops....Keith Vaz used to be at the Home Office i/c immigration from The Raj....and his wife is an immigration lawyer.......what Troy must have looked like after they unpacked the horse
 
#12
Remember:

200,000 is the number of failed asylum seekers still in the UK that the Home Office think they may never trace.

450,000 is the number of failed asylum seekers still in the UK.

?,???,??? is the number of illegal immigrants who never bothered to apply for asylum on arrival and who are also 'at large' in this country.

What the fcuk has the Home Office been doing for the past 10 years?
 
#13
Ok .... so WHAT else have they announced today, hidden behind this startling (not) news.....

The sooner this bunch are out the better, this is getting beyond a joke.
 
#14
snapper said:
Ok .... so WHAT else have they announced today, hidden behind this startling (not) news.....

The sooner this bunch are out the better, this is getting beyond a joke.
Unfortunately its too late now snapper, Enoch died years ago. Here in Lincolnshire were infested with immigrants and soon there'll be riots on a big scale.

Some people claim they're doing good for our country and businesses working where Brits don't want too. What they never say though is - all the fkn family that come over too - granny, grandad and all the fkn rug rats they bring with them. They don't work do they but they claim social.

Sorry, gunna have to go as I'm getting myself wound up with the cnuts.

BT. :x
 

Mr Happy

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#15
lsquared said:
ID cards are not the answer, a properly organized and disciplined system in the appropriate government department headed by a person with more than two or three working brain cells is the answer!
I am fortunate to live in a country that demands i have an ID card, I don't have to carry it on me but if i get picked up then a quick P-Check and I'm allowed to walk or get chucked in jail awaiting the next flight. No employer will come near me unless i can prove id and no firm will sell me a pay-as-you-go mobile or rent me any accomodation without seeing the ID card. No bank account, nothing (wages MUST be paid interbank for tax reasons). Not having a card prevents living. Sure there are ways around it but none that are financially worthwhile or conducive to a decent standard of living. Employers, found employing me without an ID get find HUGE sums and so are very careful.

It is the answer as long as its backed up by proper legislation forcing the country to work to it.

I also cannot imagine that in these days of mass death terrorism that anyone wouldn't want an ID card.. I mean duh!

As for the 200,000... If they draw a line under the 450,000 and say THATS IT. I would be much happier than letting in 200,000 and still not stopping the influx...
 
#16
Mr Happy said:
I am fortunate to live in a country that demands i have an ID card, I don't have to carry it on me but if i get picked up then a quick P-Check and I'm allowed to walk or get chucked in jail awaiting the next flight. No employer will come near me unless i can prove id and no firm will sell me a pay-as-you-go mobile or rent me any accomodation without seeing the ID card. No bank account, nothing (wages MUST be paid interbank for tax reasons). Not having a card prevents living. Sure there are ways around it but none that are financially worthwhile or conducive to a decent standard of living. Employers, found employing me without an ID get find HUGE sums and so are very careful.

It is the answer as long as its backed up by proper legislation forcing the country to work to it.
Technically the very same applies where I live, but sadly the legislation is misused, abused or simply ignored. I don't have an ID card and technically my passport suffices in lieu. However, I never take my current passport out with me for security and have something in each of my jackets: an old RSA ID book, out of date passport or two driving licences! These are all genuine, but could easily be copied/forged as the local plod simply cannot tell real from genuine! Even used a SouthWest Trains photo ID on one occasion and got away with it!!!!!! :D

Now, given it's track record so far, what's the betting this government will expect all law abiding people to fork out huge sums on a fancy ID card that will probably be 'cloneable' within seconds - and none of the illegal/crooked scum even bother and probably even benefit.

Thus defeating the object of the whole exercise.
 

Mr Happy

LE
Moderator
#17
Sadly WC I suspect that you are absolutely correct. I also suspect your SW Trains ID card worked because you are white. I've only ever received the briefest of checks myself but every coloured friend of mine seems to have everything up to the cavity search...
 
#18
Mr Happy said:
lsquared said:
ID cards are not the answer, a properly organized and disciplined system in the appropriate government department headed by a person with more than two or three working brain cells is the answer!
I am fortunate to live in a country that demands i have an ID card, I don't have to carry it on me but if i get picked up then a quick P-Check and I'm allowed to walk or get chucked in jail awaiting the next flight. No employer will come near me unless i can prove id and no firm will sell me a pay-as-you-go mobile or rent me any accomodation without seeing the ID card. No bank account, nothing (wages MUST be paid interbank for tax reasons). Not having a card prevents living. Sure there are ways around it but none that are financially worthwhile or conducive to a decent standard of living. Employers, found employing me without an ID get find HUGE sums and so are very careful.

It is the answer as long as its backed up by proper legislation forcing the country to work to it.

I also cannot imagine that in these days of mass death terrorism that anyone wouldn't want an ID card.. I mean duh!

As for the 200,000... If they draw a line under the 450,000 and say THATS IT. I would be much happier than letting in 200,000 and still not stopping the influx...
Does anyone ever create fakes? I presume you live in USA; did the ID card prevent 9/11?
 

Mr Happy

LE
Moderator
#19
Fake passports in the UK are common enough as are a load of other fake ID's. Thats why you need to do the P-Check too.

Did the US have ID cards before 9/11? Of course it didn't - and it still doesn't. Fcking DOH!
 

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