2 Div 7Qs w/e at CAST(N)

#1
Good to meet with some fellow ARRSERs this weekend and for the rest of you - you missed a really useful weekend.

Not to worry, there is another one planned for October, which hopefully will be split into pre- and post-JOTAC syndicates.

msr
 
#2
7 Questions weekend... oooops, another missed opportunity. Ah well, never having done this 7 questions mularky, am sure that my online MK1 training will prepare me well...

Anyone doing JOTAC in May who'd be willing to help out a clueless bugger?
 
#4
Yes, a very good weekend, satisfyingly tiring. A surprisingly low turnout after the excellent weekend they put on last year. A good job the Geordie Gunners were there to bolster numbers. The weekend really raised my TA morale, until I started to think that the next time I do something as militarily interesting will be on the weekend in October.........
 
#5
Sparky71 said:
7 Questions weekend... oooops, another missed opportunity. Ah well, never having done this 7 questions mularky, am sure that my online MK1 training will prepare me well...

Anyone doing JOTAC in May who'd be willing to help out a clueless bugger?
Sparky,

Who is your mentor? Are they not helping you?

msr
 
#6
For those going in October, this might be useful.

msr
 

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#7
MSR,

My mentor is our Adj. And for him to do some mentoring, he would have to interact with me. Which given that he is a regular soldier, and works 9 to 5 Monday to Friday, and that I have a full time job in the real world which occupies me 9 to 5 Monday to Friday, our paths don't cross too often.

Officer training, gotta love it. Has anyone else tried telling the system that they like life as a Subbie and have no interest in further promotion? It seems to fall on deaf ears every time I try it.

Sparky
 
#9
Sparky71 said:
MSR,

My mentor is our Adj. And for him to do some mentoring, he would have to interact with me. Which given that he is a regular soldier, and works 9 to 5 Monday to Friday, and that I have a full time job in the real world which occupies me 9 to 5 Monday to Friday, our paths don't cross too often.

Officer training, gotta love it. Has anyone else tried telling the system that they like life as a Subbie and have no interest in further promotion? It seems to fall on deaf ears every time I try it.

Sparky
Officially your mentor needs to be a Major...

Sadly, it's yet another example of the p1ss-poor state of most Officers' training.

Babarasson is definitely right to describe this weekend as retention positive.

Attached is a sample YO trg programme I picked up in Basra.

msr
 

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#10
Where does responsibility for YO development lie. 2ics are meant to be responsible for PO development, but clearly all that has gone to brigade. I find the lack of co-ordination and cohesion within and between units amazing, as it would be cheap to put on, and excellent for retention. The MK1 debacle is a clear example, but only one.
 
#11
MSR,

Thanks for that. Makes for interesting reading and serves to highlight a few (*ahem*) gaps in my YO's education.

Such a shame you had to go all the way to Basra to find something like that. Are they teaching the New Iraqi Army Officer Corps that?!?!

Sparky
 
#12
Barbarasson,

It could be something like:

O/CDT -> Lt = Adjt
Capt = 2ic
Maj = CO

I can't help thinking that things would improve enormously if every Bde Comd asked for a copy of the YO Trg Plan from each of their units.

msr
 
#14
Correct, but could you imagine the scramble to get one in? And then the embarrassing sideways glances when the Bde Comd gets hold of a subbie and asks him what he thinks of the training he has received?

You never know, it may even be retention positive ;)

msr
 
#15
Whoa there MSR. Enough of the crazy speak. Next thing you'll be suggesting is that they will stop f*cking units around, mobilizing the best soldiers and just leaving us with the dross, the few remaining "yet to goes" and the recruiting cell.
 
#16
They don't, they mobilise the volunteers...

The next step will be to try and put the brakes on us becoming Regular Army lite - now that is crazy talk ;)

msr
 
#17
Must agree, thoroughly enjoyed the weekend, managed to engage everyone involved, from OCdts and WO2s to Lt Cols.

I was amused to note that both Barbarasson and msr were trying awfully hard as IOs to 'win' their wargames.

Best line of the weekend? "and then she hit him with the Dyson."
 
#18
and that Blyth_spirit was a veritable russian linesman in ensuring that his battlegroup HQ won their war game without injury, even to the regimental mascot....
 
#19
barbarasson said:
Where does responsibility for YO development lie. 2ics are meant to be responsible for PO development, but clearly all that has gone to brigade. I find the lack of co-ordination and cohesion within and between units amazing, as it would be cheap to put on, and excellent for retention. The MK1 debacle is a clear example, but only one.
At risk of being old fashioned, does officer development responsibility not lie with the officer? I'd buy the argument that it's someone else's responsibility if we we're talking about Pte Snooks, but we're not - we're talking about officers that should have the gumption to lift themselves from their backsides and go looking for the answers...
If nothing else, go and raid the pam store, dig out some interesting 'officer' looking stuff and read it. Sure, you'll have some questions afterwards but I reckon you're more likely to get a response if it's clear you've done something to help yourself rather than just wait for it to be handed to you.
:pissedoff:
rant over
:thumleft:
 
#20
Shelldrake,

Whilst I understand (and agree) with your point entirely, I don't think that that was what Barbarasson was getting at. Responsibility must lie somewhere. You're inevitably going to get some Subbies who don't take the initiative and therefore do need guidance from above, and for those that do grab the bull by the horns, a little guidance and mentoring never goes amiss.

Sparky71
 

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