1st Line Organisation (1LO)

#1
At least I think thats what 1LO stands for...

Anyway,its been discussed on here previously and is the new practice of posting of 4 Log Specs to a Teeth Arms QM's Dept (4 for 5).

I believe 4 CSLR have started posting bods to units now. Is this true and how is it panning out?
 
#6
As I understand it the loggies coming in will be supply specialists helping get the right kit from 2nd and 3rd line to the F Ech at the right time.

I would guess the teeth arms soldiers not made redundant will be happy there are 6 less **** G4 jobs to be filled and the QM will be chuffed to have some people who know what they are doing and have all the mates-rates contacts at the log regt. But I suspect those combat soldiers made compulsorily redundant by a very narrow margin would have happily filled an HQ sqn job rather than being binned.
 
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#9
"Optimisation"? Thats a lovely term.What do blokes in Teeth Arms units feel about it?
The term 'professionalisation' was considered too political. There was anecdotal evidence that in some units own cap-badge personnel were sometimes very effective (the QRL running Bastion QM Dept on H12 had an excellent reputation, I recall). Conversely, there was concern that RLC LSS may not prove to be that professional. As luck would have it, the trial was skewed a bit by only posting hand-picked individuals. It will be interesting to see how well it is viewed when run-of-the-mill suppliers get posted in.

When you think about it, if the RLC doing it is optimal, does that mean the Teeth Arms guys doing it before were sub-optimal?
 
#10
Ref broken_man's post #6; surely Teeth Arms units have seen this sort of thing before when they lost their own clerks, chefs and most of their medics etc?
 
#13
Hand picked only soldiers will go to teeth arm units, they must be able to run under a 9 minute PFA, be class one supplier qualified (which will soon incorperate a ALL Arms storemans qual)
 
#14
Hand picked only soldiers will go to teeth arm units, they must be able to run under a 9 minute PFA, be class one supplier qualified (which will soon incorperate a ALL Arms storemans qual)
9 min PFA? Well thats 99% of any Suppliers i have seen not eligible!
 
#16
Hand picked only soldiers will go to teeth arm units, they must be able to run under a 9 minute PFA, be class one supplier qualified (which will soon incorperate a ALL Arms storemans qual)
I'm not sure whet you're getting your information from but it is typically misinformed. The teams are a mix of rank - and therefore class of supplier - but who, inevitably, should not be duffers, as they have a job of work to do and are in the shop window for all to see. As has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, this is nothing new and indeed much of the manpower moving across initially will be found from those LSTs and LSDs who have already been supporting the relevant BG during their operational deployments, thereby providing familiar faces, who know the units that they are supporting. It is in everyone's interests that we minimise the reputational risk by putting in good quality operators and to make this initiative succeed.

Despite demands from units regarding physical standards, etc, these have been resisted. How many QMs departments do you know where the CO has his best, fittest, most able soldiers tapping out demands on UNICOM?

There is, inevitably, however a balance to be struck and we cannot strip out the LSRs of their brightest and best and still continue to operate effectively, so in most instances, certainly for the first turn of the handle, selection of the teams has been left to the COs supporting those units now. Thus, CO 13 AASR will have selected individuals to support the PARAs who are both technically capable and fit but who will neither do his and the Corps' reputation any harm nor denude him of vital skills. Thereafter, replacements for these individuals will be found in the normal scheme of things by the APC. Simples.

1LO therefore represents both an opportunity and a threat to the RLC. If we get it right, we can do some great things to ensure MJDI does what it is supposed to and make the Joint Supply Chain more efficient whilst enhancing the Corps' professional reputation. If we get it wrong, we fall on our arrse and look like twats and we'll quickly restore the REMF tag in all it's glory, destroying all the good work we've been doing on operations these last 10 years.


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#17
and we cannot strip out the LSRs of their brightest and best and still continue to operate effectively]
Why not. Most vehs and materiel has been stripped out of these units already under WFM and IBSR programmes. It would, therefore, make eminent sense to concentrate our current efforts where the majority of materiel management takes place.
 
#18
You take them from the TLR's where the Supply Sqn we have has bugger all stores/training facilities, in fact that should read has bugger all day job!
 
#19
Have any suppliers actually started working in teeth arm QMs yet and if so how does it compare with say working in a supply sqn etc?
 
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