1881 census

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  1. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    Not really military but!
    Is this a spoof entry on the 1881 Census?

    Dwelling: 16 Acacia Gardens
    Census Place: Paddington, London, Middlesex, England
    Source: FHL Film 1341004 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0020 Folio 126
    Page 48


    Marr Age Sex Birthplace
    Robert GOODMAN M 52 M Maid stone, Kent, England
    Reel: Head Handicap: Lunatic
    Occ: International Playboy
    Cecily GOODMAN M 97 F Maid stone, Kent, England
    Reel: Wife
    Occ: No Profession
    Robert GOODMAN U 40 M Maid stone, Kent, England
    Reel: Son
    Occ: Ponce
    James GOODMAN U 12 M Maid stone, Kent, England
    Reel: Son
    Occ: Scholar
    Iain SMITH M 65 M Timbucktoo
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Butler
    Nelly SMITH M 65 F Nepal, India
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Wife Dom Serv
    Alfred GREEN U 40 M Rangpoor
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Chauffur
    Abraham WILKE U 25 M Afghanistan
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Footman
    John GORDON U 31 M Pakistan
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Footman
    David KING U 25 M Syria
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Footman
    William JOHNSTONE U 40 M Lisbon
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Footman
    Mary SMART U 20 F India
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Ladys Maid
    Lizzie JONES U 19 F Colombo
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Ladys Maid
    Jean ABRANOS U 17 F Penal Colony, Australia
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Ladys Maid
    Mary WILSON M 41 F Timbuctoo
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Laundry Maid
    Elizabeth KIMMETT U 30 F Timbuctoo
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Kitchen Maid
    Mary BENNETT U 25 F Timbuctoo
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Kitchen Maid
    Nellie DAVIS U 31 F Timbuctoo
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Cook
    Mary PINK U 28 F Timbuctoo
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Nurse
    June MELLOR OR MELLON U 18 F Persia
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Governess
    Margaret SIDNEY U 23 F Russia
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Under Nurse
    Peter GEORGE M 40 M Russia
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Gardener
    John KING U 31 M Russia
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Asst Gardener
    William PALMER U 15 M Nepal, India
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Page
    John GORDON U 14 M Nepal, India
    Reel: Servant
    Occ: Page

    Is this a case of a Victorian gent not taking the census seriously or a house of ill-repute? I can't help wondering about the number of residents born in Timbuctoo!
    http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7572&path=London.Paddington.St+John+Paddington.25.48&fn=Robert&ln=Goodman&st=r&pid=13106658&rc=&zp=50
     
  2. Air photo:
    http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=16+acacia+gardens+paddington&layer=&sll=51.538114,-0.17355&sspn=0.050076,0.21698&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=51.535266,-0.173762&spn=0.001565,0.006781&t=k&om=1

    Big houses but they look a bit too modern. Could have been rebuilt but whole street seems to have roof of same age.
    Staff would be far more likely to be local. I don't even think it's a contemporary joke, it looks far more recent. Let's face it, Pakistan didn't exist until 1947 which effectively puts the kybosh on it.
     
  3. Possibly the household of someone associated with the East India Company or some admin or navy Raffles-type who'd spent alot of time in the far east.
     
  4. Good catch. If the wiki article on Pakistan is right, the name wasn't even coined till 1934.
     
  5. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    Interesting.
    Are we then to say that someone has been into the National Archives & doctored a census sheet as the scan definately shows Pakistan:
    http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7572&path=London.Paddington.St+John+Paddington.25.48&fn=Robert&ln=Goodman&st=r&pid=13106658&rc=&zp=50
     
  6. Can't see it without registering. Post a copy.

    Edited to add:
    Link

    Try a search with
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=1881+census+acacia+pakistan&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB
     
  7. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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  8. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    Cheers ex-stab.
    It looks as though a lot of family history groups have it.
    I only stumbled on it when looking for information about part of my family.
    Causing all a great deal of fun though, trying to work out what he was playing at.
    & no I don't want you to do my family history, the fun is seeing where the various branches lead :thumright: