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16AA Bde No Afghan Permission

#1
The word on the Strasse is 16AA havent got the official sanction from MOD to deploy to Afghan next year, equipment is not ready and major units will literally miss the boat.

Comd 16 has taken the matter into his own hands and pushed for unit training and back door equipment prep, but is this really the way to do business after all the deplyments in the last 10 years?

Sounds a very similar situation to Sep 02 - Jan 03 before Telic
(Remeber that f**king nightmare, no you're not going, no you're not going, yes! you are going why arnt you prepped?)

And before Macedonia in 2001

Are the MOD Manderins really this stupid?

Do they have any realisation of the effect on the depolying units where operational readiness is concerned?

And more importantly the effect on the morale of the blokes, has it been this thin before? i dont think so.
 
#4
but the best thing has got to be that the uk signed up to increase its troops in Afghan about 2 years ago, as part of the expansion of the ISAF mission (includes the ARRC deployment), so it is def going to happen - the gov just don't want to admit it yet.
 
#5
Whatever happend to the 7 P's. Also what happend to keep your kit packed away and ready to go when your not using it just incase we get bumped out. People have stopped doing it at personal kit level and it spreads upwards. Two words for them BAD ADMIN.

How many of you have your Bergan and webbing packed minus "AMMUNITION" food water and socks???

Edited because i am a Crow
 
#6
And I hope minus Ammunition... unless its all changed since I was in.... good luck to all of you going out there, when they finally decide who to send, keep your heads down and God Speed
 
#8
gearupflapup said:
And I hope minus Ammunition... unless its all changed since I was in.... good luck to all of you going out there, when they finally decide who to send, keep your heads down and God Speed
like the last two Bde op depoyments then,

both times 216 QM had to supply the ALL the ammo to the Bde in the first month of both

Macedonia and Telic, thats why we were doing convoy escort with a pistol with 2 rounds in Kuwait Jan 03
 
#9
Bad_Crow said:
Whatever happend to the 7 P's. Also what happend to keep your kit packed away and ready to go when your not using it just incase we get bumped out. People have stopped doing it at personal kit level and it spreads upwards. Two words for them BAD ADMIN.

The reason kit isn't packed ready to go is because it's needed on a day to day basis to carry out training for Ops & Exercise and also to run courses etc to improve the skills and standards of our troops.I'm sure if all units were given a complete set of spare kit then it would be packed and ready at all times.This doesn't just include bergans either. Try and deploy an Apache regiment without the support vehicles!!!!!!!
 
#14
Bravo_Bravo said:
securit said:
Disgusting would be an understatement! How on earth are people expected to do their jobs without the correct equipment!
How long an answer do you want?
This is where the British Army really DOES shine - the ability of the blokes to make the best of what they have got, in the face of the increasing stupidity of UK plc taking most of what they need away!!

Shame it couldn't be the other way around - give the blokes everything they need, and see how much better they perform..... :?

Ghost
 
#16
I would of thought that ammunition is rather an important resource for fighting wars with, obviously the government dont feel the same way.
 
#17
I havent got spare kit but mine is always good to go. The first thing i do after ex is square said kit away. Thats how you play the army at their own game... Expect it all!
 
#19
securit said:
Golf_one_one said:
Macedonia and Telic, thats why we were doing convoy escort with a pistol with 2 rounds in Kuwait Jan 03
You are joking??

Unfortunatly not old boy.......


Wont go into convoy moves from Kuwait to Basrah APOD in april 2003 with 10 rounds in the front wagon and 10 in the rear.........
 
#20
There was plenty of ammo for Telic! It was packed away in iso-containers - the location of which no one knew!

Telic 3; just arrived, just about to start ferrying vehicles from port to Logs base, I quietly asked one of the ruperts who had just given the briefing where we were getting ammo from as we'd all just arrived in theatre. "On the bus son - it's all been sorted!" came the reply.

On bus half way there when RMP i/c convoy asks; "Who issued your ammo?" Many a confused face!

We completed three or four convoys, all without any ammo!

CC_TA
 

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