14 Sigs - The 4 Day Week - Does it work?

The 4 Day Week. Does It Work?

  • 5 Day Week with revised timings

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#1
The 'majority' of the Green Army as I know it work 5 days a week. 0815 until 1630-1645.

Wednesday is a Sports Afternoon (usually).

Friday is a 1230 knock off after COs PT.

14 Sigs works 0800-1730 Mon-Thurs.

Sports Afternoons are a luxury, not the norm.

Does anyone think that to revert to the 'old' 5 day week would be better? I do. Do the maths, we are working longer hours.

An extra thought: If a Friday is planned to be worked, should we not revert to the old timings anyway for that week?
 
#2
I spent just over 4 years at 14, and have very mixed opinions on the 4 day week.

The whole reason for it is because it is so far away from anywhere, therefore 1730 on a Thursday everyone just bomb-bursts, I believe this has a detrimental effect on the Regiment. The lads that do stay behind on weekends, the Brawdy Orphans(from all Squadrons) are all closer than the ones that dissapear, and work better together.

On the other hand every time I worked a 5 day week, the working hours never changed 0800 - 1730 Mon - Fri (and STILL no Sports Afternoon).

If they do bring in a 5 day week at Brawdy, then they would seriously have to look at the daily routine, or the numbers of people signing off there would soar.
 
#3
The four day at 14 week was introduced so that people arrived there on posting with something to smile about. It's a good idea that I don't think really works in practice. Getting everything done in the 4 days places undue pressure on everyone and you find that most of RHQ and the Ops Block tend to work on Fri anyway!

The hours don't add up either. I know lots of units who work similar (identical in some cases) hours to 14 and put in a full five day week.

B-T
 
#4
big-timer said:
The hours don't add up either. I know lots of units who work similar (identical in some cases) hours to 14 and put in a full five day week.
B-T
I think thats the point. You work the hours and take the extra day off (because you have already worked it...) If this is a wah you can ram it.
 
#6
It certainly worked for me for the 3 and a half years i was there! I can see why it is done, making it a lot easier for people to get home at weekends.
 
#7
It certainly worked for me for the 3 and a half years i was there! I can see why it is done, making it a lot easier for people to get home at weekends.
 
#8
Bow_Man said:
big-timer said:
The hours don't add up either. I know lots of units who work similar (identical in some cases) hours to 14 and put in a full five day week.
B-T
I think thats the point. You work the hours and take the extra day off (because you have already worked it...) If this is a wah you can ram it.
Not a Wah BM. I meant that they work 0800-1730 Mon to Fri. 9 Sup RLC and a couple of the Brigade Sig Sqns certainly do.

B-T
 
#9
Bow_Man said:
I think thats the point. You work the hours and take the extra day off (because you have already worked it...)
Exactly!! I used to shout this every time we had RSIT, LSI etc etc when they'd say...

"we'll lose the privilege of the 4-day week in preparation for this and go back to a 5-day week.."

but just like Walrus said:
On the other hand every time I worked a 5 day week, the working hours never changed 0800 - 1730 Mon - Fri (and STILL no Sports Afternoon).
We were actually putting in a 6-day week.

That old smoke and mirrors thing methinks..............
 
#11
The-Walrus said:
The whole reason for it is because it is so far away from anywhere, therefore 1730 on a Thursday everyone just bomb-bursts, I believe this has a detrimental effect on the Regiment. The lads that do stay behind on weekends, the Brawdy Orphans(from all Squadrons) are all closer than the ones that dissapear, and work better together.
Doesn't that happen at just about every unit in the British Army, certainly the UK based units.

The only people that really benefit from the 4-day week are the pads and those that live within 2-3 hours of Brawdy. If you're married unaccompanied and live any further away, you are facing crippling fuel costs for your weekly commute. The young Sig/LCpls that get posted in to the Regt are lucky if they can afford to go home every weekend. The knock-on effect is that you have young soldiers stuck in the arrse end of Wales, with no money and bored out of their minds for 3 days, as opposed to being bored and penniless for just 2 days, if the 5-day week is reintroduced.
 
#12
The location for the Regt is stupid anyway......The M4 Bridge tolls cost the unit a fortune each year and would cost even more if personnel claimed for what they should.

Move the unit to Lyneham when the Crabs bugger off.
 
#13
An extra thought: If a Friday is planned to be worked, should we not revert to the old timings anyway for that week?[/quote]

Another thought: If there is a Bank Holiday on a Monday, the Regt works the Friday. In effect, taking the time off back. Just thought I would remind those out there of this minor fact.
 
#14
Dags_is_innocent said:
An extra thought: If a Friday is planned to be worked, should we not revert to the old timings anyway for that week?
Another thought: If there is a Bank Holiday on a Monday, the Regt works the Friday. In effect, taking the time off back. Just thought I would remind those out there of this minor fact.[/quote]

don't think-it is bad for you. Worked just fine when I was there-still see all the Dads doing the school run on fridays.

Ps-Dags is many things-innocent ain't one of 'em!!
 
#16
Just one logical thought on this matter!

Currently, Sqn's only receive four days worth of logical tasking orders from the men behind the wire. Give them another day and you'd probably end up occasionally working a six day week.

My reccommendation is that the three field Sqn's should work Mon - Fri and Ops should work Saturday and Sunday. Atleast the Sqn's will be able to spend the whole week weeding through the vortex of incomings and react only to the stuff that is relevant. Probably ten per cent!!!!!!!!!
 
#17
E-Layer said:
Bow_Man said:
I think thats the point. You work the hours and take the extra day off (because you have already worked it...)
Exactly!! I used to shout this every time we had RSIT, LSI etc etc when they'd say...

"we'll lose the privilege of the 4-day week in preparation for this and go back to a 5-day week.."

but just like Walrus said:
On the other hand every time I worked a 5 day week, the working hours never changed 0800 - 1730 Mon - Fri (and STILL no Sports Afternoon).
More shite from you again :meditate:

We were actually putting in a 6-day week.

That old smoke and mirrors thing methinks..............
 
#18
During my time at Brawdy every Wednesday afternoon was sports afternoon. We had a full Scale A Regimental parade and the RSM made sure everyone had a sport to go to. If you didn't have the brains to pick a sport you had to go for a run with the QM Tech (skinny bloke, red hair).

Did the 4 day week work? Not really.

In a normal unit you have 8 weekend days on the lash (4 Friday nights and 4 Saturday nights). Most people are broke at the end of the month. At 14 Sigs you have 12 weekend days (4 Thursday nights, 4 Friday nights and 4 Saturday nights). So most of the lads were broke by the middle of the 3rd weekend, if not earlier, so the last weekend in the month was always spent at Brawdy with no money.

But at least we had Minnies....
 
#19
Interceptor said:
During my time at Brawdy every Wednesday afternoon was sports afternoon. We had a full Scale A Regimental parade and the RSM made sure everyone had a sport to go to. If you didn't have the brains to pick a sport you had to go for a run with the QM Tech (skinny bloke, red hair).

I was there too my brother. "Sheeps Teeth" what a guy!

It worked then. I think some more lateral thinking is needed on this matter. Working Friday morning but doing less hours in the week ought to be at least trialed before it is automatically sh*t canned.
 
#20
Dags_is_guilty_as_charged said:
Interceptor said:
During my time at Brawdy every Wednesday afternoon was sports afternoon. We had a full Scale A Regimental parade and the RSM made sure everyone had a sport to go to. If you didn't have the brains to pick a sport you had to go for a run with the QM Tech (skinny bloke, red hair).
I was there too my brother. "Sheeps Teeth" what a guy!
Ah, Sheep's Teeth, I remember him well. :threaten:

Dags_is_guilty_as_charged said:
Working Friday morning but doing less hours in the week...
Leaving Brawdy at lunchtime on Friday almost doubles the travelling time. If you leave Brawdy at 17:30 on Thursday evening, you miss most of the traffic; leaving at 12:30 on Friday ensures that you will hit at least one, if not all, of the main traffic pinch points, no matter where you are heading to.
 

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