11 Movies Saved by Historical Inaccuracy

#3
So someone is complaining that 'Hollywood' is far more entertaining by making things up in order to be entertaining, than sticking to the truth. I can see where on a purely 'entertainment' level that seems right.

However, for many people in the world, whether the great American public, or the cider drinking Chavs of Great Britain, what they see on the silver screen, at home on video or DVD or on their video Ipod, if presented as 'historical', is the truth. Bust. No matter how historically inaccurate, they obtain all their facts from watching that film, rather than reading a history book at the library, a visit to a museum or, god forbid, at school.

If 'Hollywood' wishes to portray actual people or events in history, it should do so in a historically accurate fashion. If they wish to entertain...... do what people have done for years, stick to fiction, write a good story and base your 'movie' on that.
 
#4
U571 is the reason Hollywood should leave history the hell alone.
 
#5
bobath, that is one film I will not watch. Its a hollywood/spetic saving the world senario. Just pi$$ a spetic off and ask when did WW1 & 2 start?

Stilts
 
#6
Got to agree with you there I have never watched and never will U571, The Patriot and that other one that Mel Gibson did where he wore a skirt
 
#7
I've never seen it. I saw the trailer and just knew it wasn't going to be for me.
 
#8
STILTS said:
bobath, that is one film I will not watch. Its a hollywood/spetic saving the world senario. Just pi$$ a spetic off and ask when did WW1 & 2 start?

Stilts
WWI
June 28 1914 - Franz Ferdinand assassination.

WWII
July 7 1937 - when did you think it started? 1939?

Perhaps you want to watch patriotic British films where the French are the heroes?
 
#9
ghost_us said:
STILTS said:
bobath, that is one film I will not watch. Its a hollywood/spetic saving the world senario. Just pi$$ a spetic off and ask when did WW1 & 2 start?

Stilts
WWI
June 28 1914 - Franz Ferdinand assassination.

WWII
July 7 1937 - when did you think it started? 1939?

Perhaps you want to watch patriotic British films where the French are the heroes?
And when did the USA turn up in WW1 and WW2 if they started in 1914 and 1937 respectivley, oh yes......... late.
 
#10
Just for perspective, the first allied forces to repel an axis attack were the Greeks on the Metaxa Line (and to be honest I'd defend a line named after brandy)

Also the ONLY country to declare war was Britain and the Commonwealth, everyone else was invaded and replied accordingly, but I agree the septics are always late and demand their share of the loot upfront
 
#11
Thats not fair. You need to watch Pearl Harbour. Ben Affleck fought, and won the Battle of Britain all on his own.
 
#12
scarletto said:
ghost_us said:
STILTS said:
bobath, that is one film I will not watch. Its a hollywood/spetic saving the world senario. Just pi$$ a spetic off and ask when did WW1 & 2 start?

Stilts
WWI
June 28 1914 - Franz Ferdinand assassination.

WWII
July 7 1937 - when did you think it started? 1939?

Perhaps you want to watch patriotic British films where the French are the heroes?
And when did the USA turn up in WW1 and WW2 if they started in 1914 and 1937 respectivley, oh yes......... late.
Errr, the US had no real reason to "turn up" for WW1 at all. It being a war between royal scum and their misguided subjects and all. And in WW2 "we" showed up at exactly the right time. Maybe if Britain and France, the so-called victors of WW1, had kept an eye on the Krauts during the 20's and 30's, your cuntries wouldn't have been given such a painful lesson in Teutonic revenge.
People shouldn't go to the movies for a history lesson anyway. :roll:
 

the_boy_syrup

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#14
ronnie12398 said:
scarletto said:
ghost_us said:
STILTS said:
bobath, that is one film I will not watch. Its a hollywood/spetic saving the world senario. Just pi$$ a spetic off and ask when did WW1 & 2 start?

Stilts
WWI
June 28 1914 - Franz Ferdinand assassination.

WWII
July 7 1937 - when did you think it started? 1939?

Perhaps you want to watch patriotic British films where the French are the heroes?
And when did the USA turn up in WW1 and WW2 if they started in 1914 and 1937 respectivley, oh yes......... late.
Errr, the US had no real reason to "turn up" for WW1 at all. It being a war between royal scum and their misguided subjects and all. And in WW2 "we" showed up at exactly the right time. Maybe if Britain and France, the so-called victors of WW1, had kept an eye on the Krauts during the 20's and 30's, your cuntries wouldn't have been given such a painful lesson in Teutonic revenge.
People shouldn't go to the movies for a history lesson anyway. :roll:

I don't mind you turning up late at all nothing like throwing on a couple of subs with fresh legs for the last 20 minutes to try and kill the game
Well done for getting the swear words in
Agree with you on the Hollywood and history bit never get it right especially that bit they keep trotting out about saving us from talking German

Keep up the good work and well done for getting in on the current two on time


When England beat Germany 5 - 1 it's a little known fact that at 4 -1 the USA Soccer team asked if they go nip on the pitch and claim a historic win :D
 
#15
U571 isn't that bad a film if you take it for what it is. It never actually says that the Allies need the Enigma machine, it states that the yanks do & at the end they explain that the Brits stole one first and then I believe the Yanks did too.

Let's face it, our best war film, Zulu, is absolutely packed to the rafters with historical innacuracies. Thats what makes it such an awesome film because writers have been liberal with the truth but have adapted it for a damn fine ripping yarn
 
#16
the_boy_syrup said:
ronnie12398 said:
scarletto said:
ghost_us said:
STILTS said:
bobath, that is one film I will not watch. Its a hollywood/spetic saving the world senario. Just pi$$ a spetic off and ask when did WW1 & 2 start?

Stilts
WWI
June 28 1914 - Franz Ferdinand assassination.

WWII
July 7 1937 - when did you think it started? 1939?

Perhaps you want to watch patriotic British films where the French are the heroes?
And when did the USA turn up in WW1 and WW2 if they started in 1914 and 1937 respectivley, oh yes......... late.
Errr, the US had no real reason to "turn up" for WW1 at all. It being a war between royal scum and their misguided subjects and all. And in WW2 "we" showed up at exactly the right time. Maybe if Britain and France, the so-called victors of WW1, had kept an eye on the Krauts during the 20's and 30's, your cuntries wouldn't have been given such a painful lesson in Teutonic revenge.
People shouldn't go to the movies for a history lesson anyway. :roll:

I don't mind you turning up late at all nothing like throwing on a couple of subs with fresh legs for the last 20 minutes to try and kill the game
Well done for getting the swear words in
Agree with you on the Hollywood and history bit never get it right especially that bit they keep trotting out about saving us from talking German

Keep up the good work and well done for getting in on the current two on time


When England beat Germany 5 - 1 it's a little known fact that at 4 -1 the USA Soccer team asked if they go nip on the pitch and claim a historic win :D
All Greek to me, chum. You foreigners should learn to speak American. :p
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#17
sparky8 said:
U571 isn't that bad a film if you take it for what it is. It never actually says that the Allies need the Enigma machine, it states that the yanks do & at the end they explain that the Brits stole one first and then I believe the Yanks did too.

Let's face it, our best war film, Zulu, is absolutely packed to the rafters with historical innacuracies. Thats what makes it such an awesome film because writers have been liberal with the truth but have adapted it for a damn fine ripping yarn
Didn't the Poles actually nick an Enigma about 1938 and offer it us
I beleive we felt it was far more sporting to spend 3 years trying to crack it

Agree about the films it's a double edged sword - don't learn from them but if you do know your history it can ruin it for you (wrong kit,time priod etc)
Watch film if you don't know the story go and research
 
#19
I've spotted a historical inaccuracy here in the bit about Marie Antoinette.

This is not Louis XVI

but his grandfather Louis XV

This is Louis XVI

(yes I have no life)

Another film slightly marred not saved by historical inaccuracies was "the Madness of King George". It was overall a good & enjoyable film (Amanda Donohoe all lifted & constrained by corsetry - nice)

However there was a scene were two Foot Guards in the background bow to the king as he alights from a carriage. The correct drill, then as now, is to present arms surely? (Also Foot Guards are shown standing guard indoors in what's I think meant to be Windsor Castle)

As I said I enjoyed the film, fine performances by the likes of Nigel Hawthorne, Helen Mirren, Ian Holm and Amanda Donohue's bust but just that little detail sets my teeth on edge. (There are a few other goofs but that one just leaped out at me)
 
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