Errr . . . could you describe what you perceive, imagine, to be the “politics” of the Proud Boys?!I don't think it does really - I mean 'Proud Boys' FFS...even before you get to their shit politics the warning lights are blaring
You can't see that? Really?
How about 'Red Boys'?
How would you see that?
It's clear what the politics of the 'Proud' Boys are - they love the Donald after all and it's only natural that folks like that would describe themselves as 'apolitical' in order to deflect criticism - in the same way that Antifa types do.Errr . . . could you describe what you perceive, imagine, to be the “politics” of the Proud Boys?!
From the interesting and very informative video, it would seem that the Proud Boys are “apolitical” . . . other than their resistance to the bullying, violent, intimidatory, thuggish, behaviour dictated and advocated by ANTIFA.
Do you support ANTIFA, their policies and behaviour?
Are you a supporter of ANTIFA?
"It's clear what the politics of the 'Proud' Boys are - they love the Donald . . . ".It's clear what the politics of the 'Proud' Boys are - they love the Donald after all and it's only natural that folks like that would describe themselves as 'apolitical' in order to deflect criticism - in the same way that Antifa types do.
I don't support Antifa, although I do despise fascists - I also despise communists, in fact I despise any kind of cretinous left/right extremist view . . .
Argue the points. Answer the question. Play the ball!!Seems you can't make those simple distinctions though eh?
OK - I'm pretty clear what kind of people populate the 'Proud Boys', I'm also pretty clear about the types that populate Antifa.Saying "Really" twice doesn't change anything. What warning lights should their title trigger ?
Red Boys ? It all depends on the context. As much as you want everyone reading your post ( winking emoji included) to make some huge assumption, the only connections are in your mind. You may want to PM Gravelbelly, he seems to think their existence revolves around banning their members from pleasuring themselves
I've already said I don't support or condone Antifa."It's clear what the politics of the 'Proud' Boys are - they love the Donald . . . ".
The ONLY connection, would seem that the Proud Boys, and POTUS, are both of the opinion that LE Agencies should be able to uphold the peace and arrest those in favour of the bullying, violent, intimidating, thuggish, behaviour, dictated and advocated by ANTIFA. Something, that the LE find frustrating . . . when the District Attorney, immediatley then release those the LE have arrested.
Do you condone the bullying, violent, intimidating, thuggish, behaviour, dictated and advocated by ANTIFA?
Do you think nothing should be done to counter the ANTIFA threat to established, peaceful, domocratic beliefs, practices, and mores?
Argue the points. Answer the question. Play the ball!!
OK - I'm pretty clear what kind of people populate the 'Proud Boys', I'm also pretty clear about the types that populate Antifa.
I don't have very much time for either of them, they are simply the same two sides of the same coin.
It seems it's a normal thing for you to see someone who disagrees with you as being an extremist from the other side - that's fine as you're clearly blind in that respect, I'm happy to treat you all with equal contempt, extreme left, extreme right, Antifa, Proud Boys, EDL, BNP, CPGB, SWP you name it!
As you don't like winking emojis you can have a smile instead, imagine how enraged that will make you
Different thing altogether. Lots of people counter (or would like to) Antifa but they aren't a member of the Proud Boys.But you also seem to dislike those who wish to counter ANTIFA ?!
You have NOT said, why you regard Proud Boys as "extremists". Why do you?
You haven't said why don't you regard the Proud Boys as "punchy blackshirts who ban their members from wanking"... Why don't you?
I'd suggest they're extreme, because at Charlottesville they marched alongside the Klan and the Nazis, and because the FBI describe them as "an extremist group with ties to white nationalism".
I'd suggest that they're rather right of centre because:
Tell you what, this link has lots of quotes from the people who set it up. Make up your own mind.
- They describe themselves as "Western Chauvinists"
- Their organisers are involved in "Unite the Right" rallies
- Set up by a bloke who describes himself as Islamophobic
- Definitely anti-immigration
Subscribe to the Sounds Like Hate podcast to learn more about hate groups like the Proud Boys. Established in the midst of the 2016 presidential election by VICE Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys are self-described “western chauvinists” who adamantly deny any connection to the...www.splcenter.org
Do they Proud Boys value the individual of all colours and faiths as the key unit in society? Seeing the individual as separate from any identity group, and separating the value of an idea from the status of the person who is behind it, are the two key ideas behind the West and its success.