10 Russian spies arrested in US

#1
Hi all,

Looks like I got first dibbs on this story too!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10442223.stm

Ten people have been arrested in the United States for allegedly spying for the Russian government.

The US Department of Justice said they were held for allegedly carrying out "long-term, 'deep-cover' assignments" on US soil.
They have been charged with conspiracy to act as unlawful agents of a foreign government, a crime which carries up to five years in prison.
An 11th suspect remains at large, according to justice officials.

The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Washington says it is a story of Cold War-era espionage with the tools and technology of the 21st Century.
The alleged agents were trained by the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) and sent to the US to infiltrate policy-making circles and collect information, according to court papers filed in US District Court for the southern district of New York.

Russian intelligence allegedly asked them for information on Washington's perception of Russian foreign policy, Iran's nuclear programme and Obama's intentions at a summit last year
Some of them had been living in the country under false identities since the early 1990s, using codes and and engaging in advanced computer operations, including posting apparently innocent pictures on the internet which contained detailed texts, investigators say.
The FBI also reported observing older techniques, such as money being buried next to a beer-bottle marker and "brush pasts" in parks.
'Brush past in parks', isn't that when they walk past each other in trilby hats & trenchcoats & say something like "The monkeys fly at dawn"?
I predict a certain coolness to future Russian/US relations.



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#2
Hi cunt, I see you are still lingering.

Yes, its news. But what isn't news is the fact that the Russians never stopped spying, never let up, never stopped their dirty tactics, even if idiots in the U.S. and British (amongst others) Successive Adminsitratons clung to their quaint belief that they did.

Besides, who cares? Everyone is doing it to everyone. The Yanks do it, we do it (albeit as paupers), the frogs do it, and China is trying to fuck everyone.
 
#3
Now the question is how many US diplomats get declared persona non grata for alleged "actions inconsistent with diplomatic status. Should be none as these were illegals but the Ruskies may just throw out a few for spite.
 
#4
Oh, at a guess, I'd say 10.
 
#5
These folk were really being groomed long term to move up. Arrested in Cambridge, MA, were Donald Heathfield and his wife Tracy Foley. They lived in an area near Harvard where a number of faculty live.

Out of curiosity, as a Kennedy School alumnus, I checked him out on the online Harvard alumni directory. He did indeed graduate with a Masters in Public Administration in 2000 (well after me). It is a program where one meets very significant figures in government. I know of at least one current 2* who was in his class. The current Ass't Sect'y of Homeland Security was teaching there when he was there. GEN Stanley McChrystal was an International Security Fellow just before Heathfield was there. One of my classmates recently retired as a 3* and another is of senior rank in another government agency. One morning I found myself sitting at breakfast between a then current cabinet member and a former Director of Central Intelligence (and wondering what Mrs. O'C's son was doing sitting with people like that)

I could go on but his experience there would have given him opportunities to meet, get to know and network with a good number of senior officials and classmates well on their way to be senior officials. He could have been a real star for the Russians.
 
#6
Yes, but how many spies do remain undetected?
Don't you think that some lawmakers are spies as well?
 
#7
As usual your bang on the button Sergey lots and lots of Soviet citizens will be undetected US spy's and many of your lawmakers also.

john
Pleased to say that we British would never ever spy on our Russian comrades.
 

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#9
Dashing_Chap said:
Hi all,

They have been charged with conspiracy to act as unlawful agents of a foreign government, a crime which carries up to five years in prison.
Still less than you would get for wearing a BP t shirt
 
#10
KGB_resident said:
Yes, but how many spies do remain undetected?
Don't you think that some lawmakers are spies as well?
Go on Sergei give us a clue and save the poor old FBI some hard work.

Neither we nor the Americans need spies as lawmakers, they couldn't do any more damage than the idiots we already have in Parliament/Senate.
 
#11
Drlligaf said:
KGB_resident said:
Yes, but how many spies do remain undetected?
Don't you think that some lawmakers are spies as well?
Go on Sergei give us a clue and save the poor old FBI some hard work.

Neither we nor the Americans need spies as lawmakers, they couldn't do any more damage than the idiots we already have in Parliament/Senate.
Well that explains "New Labour" anyway! Has Gordon gone bach to his dacha.
 
#12
The loudbarking dogs and copious empty bottles of vodkas must have been a dead giveaway!
 
#13
jonwilly said:
Pleased to say that we British would never ever spy on our Russian comrades.
Wah.

Edited to add:

In all seriousness, if the Spams have had them under surveillance for some years then it is logical to conclude that either the Ruskis were planning something that the FBI had to stop, or it now serves US interests to arrest them. Otherwise, they could have kept things quiet and continued watching them, possibly trying to turn them.

This is a very overt political exercise.
 
#14
Jungelism said:
This is a very overt political exercise.
That or they were about to touch on something the Spams would prefer they didn't.

Being honest, I can't see that it does a great deal positive for the administration.
 
#15
Jungelism said:
jonwilly said:
Pleased to say that we British would never ever spy on our Russian comrades.
Wah.

Edited to add:

In all seriousness, if the Spams have had them under surveillance for some years then it is logical to conclude that either the Ruskis were planning something that the FBI had to stop, or it now serves US interests to arrest them. Otherwise, they could have kept things quiet and continued watching them, possibly trying to turn them.

This is a very overt political exercise.
From what I've heard, the CI bods rounded them up once they got all they could from surveillance. To be fair, the FBI seems to have become a lot better at it than they were, say 10 years ago. At heart, they're cops and their first instinct was always to go out and make arrests. Now they're more inclined to hang back and see where the trail leads them. When the trail ends, then they get rounded up.

If all they're looking at is 5 years, then they couldn't have done that much harm. (Ask Jonathan Pollard, Aldrich Aimes or Robert Hanssen how hard the book can be thrown.) Apparently they were more or less there as a check on the veracity of OSI. Apparently, the Russians still don't trust newspapers and, of course, they find the covert stuff much, much sexier.
 
#16
Not sure if I would rely on online records when checking out the identity of a spy.

I shall be glad when all this cold war stuff finishes again, but we need a symbol to knock over, like the Berlin Wall, which will tell us when we have completed the circle. They we can try to avoid the mistakes that put us back into this ridiculous situation.

(hyperventilates and dies of paranoia)
 
#17
jonwilly said:
As usual your bang on the button Sergey lots and lots of Soviet citizens will be undetected US spy's and many of your lawmakers also.

john
Pleased to say that we British would never ever spy on our Russian comrades.
Thank you John. British diplomats that played with special magic stones in Moscow were not spies at all. It was just a game.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4638136.stm
 
#18
KGB_resident said:
jonwilly said:
As usual your bang on the button Sergey lots and lots of Soviet citizens will be undetected US spy's and many of your lawmakers also.

john
Pleased to say that we British would never ever spy on our Russian comrades.
Thank you John. British diplomats that played with special magic stones in Moscow were not spies at all. It was just a game.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4638136.stm
It's the Great Game, Gospodin KGB 8)
 
#20
I concur,



I wonder if the curtains match the carpet?












Accused: L-R, Anna Chapman, Vicky Pelaez, the defendant known as 'Richard Murphy', the defendant known as 'Cynthia Murphy', and the defendant known as 'Juan Lazaro' are seen in Manhattan federal court in New York last night

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