Right Couldn't choose a forum, so this one'll have to do. The crabby brief: Â£3000 to spend on a used car. Has to be large enough to fit crabby's long legs and broad shoulders in + be able to sit 5 occasionally and have enough space to lug lots of stuff. Currently own a honda civic 5dr. Has to do more than 30mpg Has to be less than 80k, newer than 99/00. Has to be reliable - so nothing french Under 12 insurance group - old as I act I'm still a young'un My shortlist so far is: Honda Accord 1.8 S Honda Civic Estate 1.6 Ford Focus Estate Ford Mondeo Ford Mondeo Estate Skoda Octavia Estate Anyone got anything realistic to add to that?