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£230 million contract to bolster Royal Navy torpedoes

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‘neutralise’?

how very woke and inclusive, can’t be destroying things, can we?
If you knew anything about anything, the term neutralise has been used for donkeys e.g. the effect required when calling in a fire mission.

But given you have absolutely no military experience, you wouldn't know that would you sweetheart?
 
‘neutralise’?

how very woke and inclusive, can’t be destroying things, can we?
You're a moron. Apologies to the largest Regiment for any inaccuracy or oversimplification...

"Neutralise" has a very specific, NATO-standard, meaning to Gunners in terms of target effect. It indicates a density of fire that prevents the targeted unit from achieving anything or interfering with what you're doing; it can be a few rounds a minute. Push them into cover, keep their heads down, stop them moving about.

"Destroy" also has a very specific meaning to Gunners, and indicates the opposite end of the effects scale. It indicates that you want shattered trenches, f***ed antennas and vision blocks on F vehicles, shredded bodies. It's quite expensive in terms of shells landing per grid square.

So, if you're speaking to the FOO over the radio, you might hear either "Fire Mission, GR123456, bearing 2100mils, Enemy infantry dug in, neutralise now for five minutes" or "Fire Mission, GR123456, bearing 2100mils, Enemy infantry advancing in open, destroy"
 
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Yokel

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You're a moron. Apologies to the largest Regiment for any inaccuracy or oversimplification...

"Neutralise" has a very specific, NATO-standard, meaning to Gunners in terms of target effect. It indicates a density of fire that prevents the targeted unit from achieving anything or interfering with what you're doing; it can be a few rounds a minute. Push them into cover, keep their heads down, stop them moving about.

"Destroy" also has a very specific meaning to Gunners, and indicates the opposite end of the effects scale. It indicates that you want shattered trenches, f***ed antennas and vision blocks on F vehicles, shredded bodies. It's quite expensive in terms of shells landing per grid square.

So, if you're speaking to the FOO over the radio, you might hear either "Fire Mission, GR123456, bearing 2100mils, Enemy infantry dug in, neutralise now for five minutes" or "Fire Mission, GR123456, bearing 2100mils, Enemy infantry advancing in open, destroy"

I thought 'naturalise' simply meant 'neutralise the threat' - in other words doing another damage to stop the enemy vessel or whatever from conducting offensive operations?

Also, Churchill once berated an Officer with the words: Enemy U boats are not sunk, they are destroyed.
 
Maybe we should call Troy Tempest too :)
He's on his way!

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If you knew anything about anything, the term neutralise has been used for donkeys e.g. the effect required when calling in a fire mission.

But given you have absolutely no military experience, you wouldn't know that would you sweetheart?

Hey don’t worry we don’t do ‘Fracking’ anymore, oh noooooo that’s nasty...now we only ‘stimulate the shale’.

Read an interesting link on the Aussie AH-64E purchase, calling the Tiger and this an Armwd Recon Helo....it’s an Attack Helo.

And wasn’t FOAS Future Offensive Air System changed because an Offensive Air System was a bit too pointy?? Or was it FOAC changed to FOAS, meh I don’t remember.

PR cnuts
 
‘Deter’?
GTFOH!

Torpedoes don’t deter - no one ever said; put a warning torpedo across his bows Chief!
Torpedoes either sleep in their tubes, or blow a target to smithereens.

PR cnuts indeed.
 

Yokel

LE
‘Deter’?
GTFOH!

Torpedoes don’t deter - no one ever said; put a warning torpedo across his bows Chief!
Torpedoes either sleep in their tubes, or blow a target to smithereens.

PR cnuts indeed.

They certainly deterred the Argentines in 1982 after the ARA Belgrano was sunk - so yes they deter in the same way as the ammunition carried by a sentry or the missiles carried by a fighter.

Homing torpedoes also deter unfriendly submariners. Again in 1982 the damaged ARA Santa Fe was deterred from diving by a homing torpedo being dropped, and knowing that the Lynk was probably carrying another one.
 

Yokel

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The Spearfish trials have been largely completed.

“The ‘Mod 1’ weapon is at the very cutting edge of torpedo technology and underscores Britain's position as one of the global leaders in underwater capability.

“That Talent continues her proud tradition of delivering exactly what is required of her makes this all the more pleasing for me.”

Spearfish has been the Royal Navy’s heavyweight torpedo for nearly 30 years and can break the back of frigates, destroyers and similar-sized warships, as well as take out any underwater threats.

The enhanced torpedo features a new warhead, new, safer fuel system, a smarter electronic ‘brain’ and a fibre-optic guidance link with its parent submarine to improve its accuracy and lethality.


As for Sting Ray - I imagine there a lots of things that can be updated. Remember that it is the primary ASW weapon of frigates and destroyers, and indeed the Carrier Strike Group, via Merlin HM2. If only we had more ASW cabs...
 
The Spearfish trials have been largely completed.

“The ‘Mod 1’ weapon is at the very cutting edge of torpedo technology and underscores Britain's position as one of the global leaders in underwater capability.

“That Talent continues her proud tradition of delivering exactly what is required of her makes this all the more pleasing for me.”

Spearfish has been the Royal Navy’s heavyweight torpedo for nearly 30 years and can break the back of frigates, destroyers and similar-sized warships, as well as take out any underwater threats.

The enhanced torpedo features a new warhead, new, safer fuel system, a smarter electronic ‘brain’ and a fibre-optic guidance link with its parent submarine to improve its accuracy and lethality.


As for Sting Ray - I imagine there a lots of things that can be updated. Remember that it is the primary ASW weapon of frigates and destroyers, and indeed the Carrier Strike Group, via Merlin HM2. If only we had more ASW cabs...
Isn't that a new torpedo?
 

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