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**ugly** · 05-03-2008, 17:51

I have a Ruger 77Mk2 HBVT which must be a 1 in 12 as it loves 55 grainers at 3100 fps, it gets boring creating 1 hole groups at 100.

**.338lapua_magnum** · 05-03-2008, 18:36

The remmy 700 has a 1:9 and will give me consistent one hole groups @100m with 55grain Vmax. Interestingly enough it does the same with the 69grain scenars which I use for tgt work. I like the Vmax because anything you hit explodes.

**ugly** · 05-03-2008, 18:38

Originally Posted by .338lapua_magnum

The remmy 700 has a 1:9 and will give me consistent one hole groups @100m with 55grain Vmax. Interestingly enough it does the same with the 69grain scenars which I use for tgt work. I like the Vmax because anything you hit explodes.

The V max has that lovely effect but even bog standard sp at those speeds has a smilar effect!

**.338lapua_magnum** · 05-03-2008, 19:36

Have you ever used Amax on anything other than tgts Ugly? Nevr tried them but I have heard various good reports especially in 7.62.

**ugly** · 05-03-2008, 19:42

I knew a chap who used the a max when they first came out on crows in his 222 and his .17,he said the main difference was the detonation, the crows seemed to explode with the a max but the bullet would eplode on the outside of the fox causing horrific injusries and it would slink away in pain. He stuck to the V max after that for foxes and used up the a max on crows and magpies.
I've seen V Max used on Fallow and it was enough to put me off ballistic tips for life. The bullet hit the ribs and exploded leaving a hole like an exit wound and shredding bullet jacket and bone through the chest and gut. It died but it was worthless as meat!

**.338lapua_magnum** · 05-03-2008, 20:49

I do use Vmax on bigger mammals when on vermin control duties and only for confirmed head shots. With Vmax I can guarantee that I will not have ricochets rattling all over the place. I have yet to have one fail to kill, even if the shot is not 100% onto the brain area: actually I prefer to place them just below the brain which usually results in an empty brain pan. Think I may try the Amax.

**DrStealth** · 05-03-2008, 22:31

i'v heard a few sad storys of over expansive projies on large gamed animals (fallow+upwards), large surface wounds, wounded animals, ruined meat ect, they are perfect for goats but not an heavier animal i think.

65gn sierras, best allrounder.

still sticking with the 'ol 52gn BTHP on things smaller than goats,

vermin vaporizing, fav sport of rednecks internationally

**John_Jorrocks** · 06-03-2008, 14:46

What twist do you think would be best in the issue Bic biro barrel?

Is it better perhaps staying smooth bored?

**JJ4456** · 06-03-2008, 15:59

Originally Posted by studentfeckwit

Is there a new 5.56 ammo supplier around? We used some stuff on the weekend that was stamped T instead of RG and had silver primers. Didn't seem too good compared to the normal BAE ammunition. (did I just say that??)