.. this may well have been covered before,...if it has I apologise.

There has been some press coverage of late about the suitability of the Snatch in Iraq.

A significant number of the most recent British casualties have involved occupants of the above.

Admittedly its better than L/Rover Wolf unarmoured as per Telic 1 and 2, but in the light of the increased sophistication of IED's, surely more heavily protected vehicles ie Warrior are more appropriate.

Are the policitians or senior management not protecting Brit service personnel properly?

The US is investing massively in up armouring anything with wheels on it.

Thoughts???

Bring on the APV

Originally Posted by Outstanding

Bring on the APV

APV??

Its cheap and there is nothing else availble considering how much the war is supposed to have cost us tax payers .Youd think the troops would be riding round in hovver tanks and getting bored with quail eggs and caviar sarnies and only crystal to drink .

Whats the difference between the Snatch and the Pig that was used in NI? Both uparmoured Rovers for those not-quite-war-but-not-quite-peace occasions aren't they?

And to echo tooold; APV??

APV is the heavy(ish) duty Land Rover used in areas such as West Belfast (a bit like the RUC/PSNI Hotspur). I think its been replaced by the Tavern (looks like a big green square post office van) whereas the Snatch (great name) is the lighter protected version as seen over the rest of the Province, especially in rural areas.

And the Pig?

The Humber Pig;



Not many would fcuk with one of these trundling down the Springfield Rd. Usually driven by a lunatic RCT driver, those feckers could chuck these mammoths around like Ayrton Senna on LSD.

The APV (Armoured Patrol Vehicle) was called the 'Piglet'. The early ones were based on a Series III LR but only had 'plastic' (Makralon I believe) armour. The later ones were based on the Defender 110 and had a bit more substantial armour designed to withstand RPG and IAAG attacks (worked quite well. From personal experience ;)) but handled slightly worse than a cross channel ferry due to being very top heavy.
To allow for a slightly more nimble rural version, the Snatch was introduced. The same wagons that are currently being used in Iraq.

Fcuking 'ell Flashy that looks like something out of that film Aliens! All you need is the dropship and some facehugging marine-disembowelling barstewards now!

It is kind've making sense now why we have so many different types. Surely with NI calmed down though we could make do with one type of riot van. Like the starter of this thread said, perhaps something with a bit more steel between you and the nasties, if Snatches aren't too hot in this department...

: The pigs got sold off as no longer required though to make them road legal in the uk the armour had to come off .Remeber some
loon mounted a sound system on one for the road protests police got very excited (probably saw it as an excuse to buy bigger guns and rocket launchers ) Saw a photo of it bogged down in a ploughed field and that was the end of the threat of anarchist armour.An armoured box with some cross country ability , ability
to keep the occupants alive if hit by ied and air con so they dont fry in it .If arktis sold it would probly cost 50 grand for mod will cost
4 million each .