ARmy Rumour SErvice

**chungmeister** · 19-01-2006, 09:57

Has anybody ever used the m16/m4 or Steyr AUG that has a front hand grip fitted? what are the bennefits of the grips? Stability perhaps? Got a pic here

of a A2 fitted with a hand grip by HK. Possibly a future development? the picture was taken at a defence show in London a couple of years ago. Apparantly, its a more confortable and natural to hold the rifle in the standing, kneeling position with the grip fitted.
Another question, Regarding the LLM (Laser Light Module). Wouldnt it have made more sense to mount it directly above or below the barrel of the rifle as opposed to the side? If you are good with maths, you can work out the laser has to cross the path of the bullet on 2 differet axis ( X and Y) when mounted on the side, meaning that the laser will only be accurate within a very small range bracket. Any thoughts on either subjects anybody?

**Malariadup** · 19-01-2006, 10:43

I've met loads of RAF Regt who used to fit an LSW butt grip in the same place coz they thought it looked warry

**msr** · 19-01-2006, 10:48

Originally Posted by Malariadup

I've met loads of RAF Regt who used to fit an LSW butt grip in the same place coz they thought it looked warry

Presumably this was the reason they had hoods stitched onto their desert shirts

MSR

**Conductor** · 19-01-2006, 10:59

Originally Posted by Malariadup

I've met loads of RAF Regt who used to fit an LSW butt grip in the same place coz they thought it looked warry

We used to do that in Belfast with the SLR 7.62 (A mans weapon

) in the early 70's. Some of the Inf lads purchased their on single point sight as well. That was in the days when most SLR's only had iron sights.

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**Conductor** · 19-01-2006, 11:07

Originally Posted by Malariadup

I've met loads of RAF Regt who used to fit an LSW butt grip in the same place coz they thought it looked warry

We used to do that in Belfast with the SLR 7.62 (A mans weapon

) in the early 70's. Some of the Inf lads purchased their on single point sight as well. That was in the days when most SLR's only had iron sights.

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**spike7451** · 19-01-2006, 12:27

Originally Posted by Conductor

Originally Posted by Malariadup

I've met loads of RAF Regt who used to fit an LSW butt grip in the same place coz they thought it looked warry

We used to do that in Belfast with the SLR 7.62 (A mans weapon

) in the early 70's. Some of the Inf lads purchased their on single point sight as well. That was in the days when most SLR's only had iron sights.

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Ahh....The SLR...Now THAT was a rifle!!!!All it needed was the folding stock & selective fire like the Argie version & you did'nt need the POS SA80!!
The foregrip on the A2 in the photo looks like it's a generic type for fitting extra's to it like torches,G/launchers ect.
Mind you,whats that nobble thing on the end ofe BFA???Never seen that before.
Spike

**tearsbeforebedtime** · 19-01-2006, 12:29

The new improved BFA. Don't need the Combi tool to tighten it up now. The RAF Regt with Gucci foregrips? Is that so they are more comfortable walking round the perimeter?

**CaptainPlume** · 19-01-2006, 12:30

Spike7451 wrote:

Mind you,whats that nobble thing on the end ofe BFA???

I belive it's the new safe blank firing system job. Part of the system is the yellow magazines which are fitted to this rifle.

**chungmeister** · 19-01-2006, 12:30

Thats the new SBFA - Safe Blank Firing Attatchent. the thing sticking out of the end is a live bullet catcher.

**Conductor** · 19-01-2006, 12:31

Originally Posted by spike7451

Ahh....The SLR...Now THAT was a rifle!!!!All it needed was the folding stock & selective fire like the Argie version & you did'nt need the POS SA80!!
The foregrip on the A2 in the photo looks like it's a generic type for fitting extra's to it like torches,G/launchers ect.
Mind you,whats that nobble thing on the end ofe BFA???Never seen that before.
Spike

Opps, Sorry Spike, I never ment to misslead. The picture is of a single point sight. Not the SLR. Sorry :(