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Dear God, stop-thats another knackered key board.

(Do you remember as an off piste comment the incident at Sennelager with one of the Guards battalions on the grenade range. Young Officer gets Platoon on the front parapet orders throw L2 bounces over the gravel big bang and lots of bloody bashed and cut up guardsmen. When asked why he ordered it, Officer said he thought the danger area was the one quoted for soft ground, not the hard stuff on the impact area. Those were the days!)

Those boots were a very worn in and comfortable issue of BCH and everything worn there was issue tissue although the trop trousers should have gone back into stores they dried out too quickly to not wear!

That Charlie G story is almst as funny as the LASM through the BRF/Trojan park fence.

Originally Posted by ugly

It was a portacabin so blast wasn't as bad it seems! I seem to remember it was Magilligan camp for some reason!

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That was the second incident. The first was in Girdwood Park - 40 Cdo RM in around '73.

Originally Posted by bergen

That was the second incident. The first was in Girdwood Park - 40 Cdo RM in around '73.

That was a bit different. They were rehearsing drills for a VBIED /proxy bomb at the camp gates, for which the drill was (if ATO was otherwise engaged), to use an inert round against the vehicle, in hopes of disrupting the device, but using a long, spring-loaded cable (like for areally old camera) to operate the trigger.

In true Bootie style, for the time, they got drill and inert muddled up (that's why the Colour Bloke's bed is not a good storage place for ammo), and launched a TPTP through some old girl's front of house.

How the f#ck it never came to court, I dunno. but it happened, nonetheless.

On a sadder note, one of Our JNCOs (Cpl Peterson, IIRC) was lost to one of those devices, in '79. He was part of an infantry team supporting NITAT training for a Cav mob, and they had a misfire on a remotely operated Charlie G. He went forward with the Range Officer to investigate, and his last words were summat like "Oh! I can see what's wrong".

Before anyone could stop him, he reached across the weapon, and cleared the obstruction that had prevented the cable activating the trigger.

And blew his own head off. all over the Range Officer, my pal David W***n

Who was then detained, without even being asked to make a statement, for several hours - still covered in the grey matter and blood of his erstwhile comrade in arms - by the Subnormal Interference Branch of the Royle Military Lice, on suspicion of doing his job properly.

Eventually Dave told the Monkeys to fuck off, and went for a shower and change of clothes.
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*Stonkernote And the Monkeys wonder why they get a bad press?

Originally Posted by Stonker

That was a bit different. They were rehearsing drills for a VBIED /proxy bomb at the camp gates, for which the drill was (if ATO was otherwise engaged), to use an inert round against the vehicle, in hopes of disrupting the device, but using a long, spring-loaded cable (like for areally old camera) to operate the trigger.

In true Bootie style, for the time, they got drill and inert muddled up (that's why the Colour Bloke's bed is not a good storage place for ammo), and launched a TPTP through some old girl's front of house.



How the f#ck it never came to court, I dunno. but it happened, nonetheless.

It happened during Operation Motorman 1972, I was attached to 40 and close to the firing point.

L/Cpl 'Taff' R**d (40 Cdo) was taking a lad on continuation training (84mm training had been stopped as a basic training requirement at ITCRM the previous year). TPTP rounds were routinely carried with the weapon on vehicle patrols, but I have never heard of them being fired by any sort of cable remote. Did see a news clip at the time of them opening up a car with a TPTP but fired from a distance

Taff decided that the accommodation hut was a good place to train and sent the sprog for a practice round instead of a drill round. The CQMS never batted an eyelid because TPTP rounds were being signed out on a regular basis. (For anyone who knew Girdwood at the time the huts were alongside the football pitch at the back of Crumlin prison - one of the huts was ATO's).

The lad pulled the trigger expecting the click and first IA. The back blast took most of the wrigley tin hut out and the round disappeared at 1020 fps into the next door hut where it passed between top and bottom bunks and then on through a second hut before stopping in a locker next to the TV lounge.

No-one was hurt except for a couple of perforated ear-drums.

Originally Posted by pimpernel

Dear God, stop-thats another knackered key board.

(Do you remember as an off piste comment the incident at Sennelager with one of the Guards battalions on the grenade range. Young Officer gets Platoon on the front parapet orders throw L2 bounces over the gravel big bang and lots of bloody bashed and cut up guardsmen. When asked why he ordered it, Officer said he thought the danger area was the one quoted for soft ground, not the hard stuff on the impact area. Those were the days!)

His name was Dick...on.
He got sacked for it. At Sennelager in 1979.

He stood an L2 on a rise stating that at 40m you would be safe.
Pulled pin, ran and joined nervous circle.

Bang.

One Guardsman with fragment in gut.

Company commander (Who went on to command "Them" nearly hit him.

Oh how we laughed.