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**labrat** · 19-07-2009, 13:44

Originally Posted by fatmini

I suppose you could use it to carry your laptop and iPod under your coat when traveling in London ,to avoid muggings !

What makes you think he's Brazilian?

**tommylads1831** · 19-07-2009, 14:50

exactly that EX_STAB, there is no harm in owning kit wether u have a use for it or not, im not scared of going out and spending money on items through curiosity, i wanted said peice for the sheer fact ive never seen one before and probs never will do again. EX_STAB u are totally right mate.

**fatmini** · 19-07-2009, 15:03

I think however there is a difference in the ornamental properties of the 2 items.
The shell case has more of a wide decretive and usefull appeal ( holding flowers ,loose change ,pens etc)

The vest on the other hand does not have such a wide use ,you could get it framed I suppose and get it placed above the fire place and it would be a very interesting talking piece.

(Sorry Iâ€™ve given this far to much thought )

**rickshaw-major** · 19-07-2009, 15:46

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Just a question, fellas, but are there actually plates that'll defeat .50 cal? Surely the unholy wallop would cave your chest in anyway, unless you'd wrapped a couple of duvets around your body under the armour.

I'm asking because I genuinely don't know, so please try to resist the usual "fÃ¼ckin t'ickie Oirishman" comments. :D :D :D

MsG

These plates had to be worn with the existing INIBA vest (Individual NI Ballistic Armour) is, I believe, what some poster are saying. Now that I am fed and watered bits of info are starting to come back.

As well as DCTA there was an organisation called SCRDE - Stores and Clothing Research and Development Dept and they would have arranged for the trialling of these plates.

But being hit would have hurt even if the layers had defeated the bullet. :(

**SickbayRanger** · 19-07-2009, 16:03

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Just a question, fellas, but are there actually plates that'll defeat .50 cal?

The only ones I have seen are big, grey and fitted to the side of big grey war canoes..

Joking aside, the plates may stop the projectile but the energy transfer alone would seriously mess you up.

**batus_survivor** · 19-07-2009, 16:30

If I remember rightly DCTA was the Defence Clothing & Textile Agency. Don't know about now, but the original C95 kit had their label in some of the items.

**auscam** · 20-07-2009, 08:12

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Just a question, fellas, but are there actually plates that'll defeat .50 cal? Surely the unholy wallop would cave your chest in anyway, unless you'd wrapped a couple of duvets around your body under the armour.

I'm asking because I genuinely don't know, so please try to resist the usual "fÃ¼ckin t'ickie Oirishman" comments. :D :D :D

MsG

I was wondering the same thing. The impact would have to cause serious/fatal internal injuries. Even if the vest stopped all blunt trauma on the inside, all that kinetic energy has to go somewhere!

**EX_STAB** · 20-07-2009, 08:17

Originally Posted by auscam

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Just a question, fellas, but are there actually plates that'll defeat .50 cal? Surely the unholy wallop would cave your chest in anyway, unless you'd wrapped a couple of duvets around your body under the armour.

I'm asking because I genuinely don't know, so please try to resist the usual "fÃ¼ckin t'ickie Oirishman" comments. :D :D :D

MsG

I was wondering the same thing. The impact would have to cause serious/fatal internal injuries. Even if the vest stopped all blunt trauma on the inside, all that kinetic energy has to go somewhere!

If you think about it, if you can fire a 50 cal sniper rifle without killing yourself it must be possible to absorb the energy. I know the muzzle brake will do a bit but the principle still stands.

**GLESGA-NED** · 20-07-2009, 10:08

I remember using a similar vest (only wasn't DPM) when on the gate at patrol bases in NI. It was to give extra protection to the sentry when predictably opening the gates for teams moving in and out. We never used them out on the ground though.

**two_of_seven** · 20-07-2009, 10:20

Originally Posted by EX_STAB

Originally Posted by auscam

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Just a question, fellas, but are there actually plates that'll defeat .50 cal? Surely the unholy wallop would cave your chest in anyway, unless you'd wrapped a couple of duvets around your body under the armour.

I'm asking because I genuinely don't know, so please try to resist the usual "fÃ¼ckin t'ickie Oirishman" comments. :D :D :D

MsG

I was wondering the same thing. The impact would have to cause serious/fatal internal injuries. Even if the vest stopped all blunt trauma on the inside, all that kinetic energy has to go somewhere!

If you think about it, if you can fire a 50 cal sniper rifle without killing yourself it must be possible to absorb the energy. I know the muzzle brake will do a bit but the principle still stands.

From what I recall a ceramic plate (with a rubberised backing) was issued in RUC vests in the 90's. Mostly for border duties as that was were the main .50 sniper threat was. They became quite useless if dropped breaking the ceramic tile.

Cant comment on their effectiveness, tho they would at least give you a better chance against large rounds.