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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    I have just seen on wikipedia (sa80 page), Nepal , Jamaica & Zimbabwe have purchased / are using them.

    Do we really support Mugabe in this way?

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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    Quote Originally Posted by two_of_seven
    I have just seen on wikipedia (sa80 page), Nepal , Jamaica & Zimbabwe have purchased / are using them.

    Do we really support Mugabe in this way?
    Was probably a load of wobbly A1s. This is why he hates the Breeteesh so much.

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    Re: Other contries equipment cock-ups.

    probably a cunning plan to stop him killing his own be vor by the end of the week not even much cops as a club :(
    On a Hot morning in cyprus I found the meaning of anger. Fortunataly I was comftably numb.
    The RSM and various other NCO's seemed very agitated.
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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    How about the most useless and over hyped foreign weapon of all time?

    Iraq WMD

    Going further back in time we have the RussianT-35

    How about the canadian Hughes Shovel also known as the MacAdam shield-shovel?

    The MacAdam shield-shovel resembled the standard portable infantry spade of its day in both size and shape. Its design however required it to prevent the penetration of, or at the very least deflect, enemy gunfire. As a result of this condition, heavier than usual steel was used in the construction of the blade; it measured at three-sixteenths of an inch thick.[3]Heavy steel was also used to make the shovel's detachable handle which measured four feet in length. Unique to the shield-shovel was the inclusion of a 3.5 by 2 inch sight-hole in the blade.[4] In total, the MacAdam shield- shovel weighed 5 pounds 4 ounces

    Preliminary tests however revealed the unfortunate conclusion that the shovel’s blade was incapable of stopping the penetration of gunfire even from the smallest of enemy calibre arms. Its value as a digging tool was also questioned as soldiers commented against the shovel’s weight, its inability to be easily carried, and the fact that the blade was poor for shovelling loose soil as it contained a large sight-hole.
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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    Check out these Indian purchases!!!!

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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    G'day cobbers...Collins class submarines?

    Read this, it is a cracker! The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin (http://www.amazon.com/Collins-Class-.../dp/0521868947 )

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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    Quote Originally Posted by emptyeye
    Quote Originally Posted by CC_TA
    SA80 also went to the Romanian Navy

    Equipment c*** ups - nothing wrong with the design, just the destination - An Iso container full of lawn mowers turning up in shaibah Log Base - Iraq - Giggles.
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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles
    G'day cobbers...Collins class submarines?

    Read this, it is a cracker! The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin (http://www.amazon.com/Collins-Class-.../dp/0521868947 )
    Spot on. And if you want to see a classic case of spin check this out.

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    Re: Other contries equipment cock-ups.

    Soviet Union - Anti Tank dogs

    In the past I know, but hardly the best idea in practice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog
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    Re: Other contries equipment cock-ups.

    the German f104 farce aka the widowmaker
    lots of dead boxhead pilots before it got sorted out
    On a Hot morning in cyprus I found the meaning of anger. Fortunataly I was comftably numb.
    The RSM and various other NCO's seemed very agitated.
    maybe they should look into counselling?

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    How about the Yanks spending millions on Sergeant York and ending up with bugger all?
    I think the Soviet Union had its fair share of projects that were a bag of sh!t too.
    And just look at the USA's V-22 programme - what a horror! All that money and what have they got? A dog.
    A lot of countries have shite defence procurement programmes, believe me.

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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    A few recent US examples

    Crusader
    Comanche and its replacement ARH
    FCS
    JTRS
    A-12
    OICW
    Tanker
    Marine 1
    DD-21
    Seawolf

    Opps missed the point, most of the above never entered service, Seawolf is good just far to expensive

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    Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.

    There are more, just for the US Army (the RAH-66 Comanche helicopter is a good example: twenty years in development, binned in pre-production with billions down the drain building a radar-proof helicopter to look for insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan) but suffice it to say, we're not the only nation to get it expensively wrong in defence procurement...
    They screwed up the replacement as well.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_ARH-70

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmypig
    The RAN ordered 11 SH-2G Super Seasprites in 1997. The aircraft never entered SQN service, the program cost over A$1 billion, all for nought .... scrapped in 2008.

    Helicopters were intended for a ship that never showed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winnfield
    There are more, just for the US Army (the RAH-66 Comanche helicopter is a good example: twenty years in development, binned in pre-production with billions down the drain building a radar-proof helicopter to look for insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan) but suffice it to say, we're not the only nation to get it expensively wrong in defence procurement...
    They screwed up the replacement as well.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_ARH-70

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmypig
    The RAN ordered 11 SH-2G Super Seasprites in 1997. The aircraft never entered SQN service, the program cost over A$1 billion, all for nought .... scrapped in 2008.

    Helicopters were intended for a ship that never showed up.
    Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winnfield
    Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
    A lot of good helicopters were built/designed in the 60's: Chinook, Cobra, to name but 2.
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