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    Quote Originally Posted by Yank_Lurker View Post
    And the Japanese thought that after we lost 2,402 Americans at Pearl Harbor we'd sue for peace, because we'd not be willing to lose even more to avenge their loss.

    They were wrong.
    Just as Hitler was dead wrong about the grit of our British cousins when he blitzed them. Now hopefully that evens the scales of scorn and we can remember the nature of the OP and more particularly the 3 SOF Marines who were murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead View Post
    Just as Hitler was dead wrong about the grit of our British cousins when he blitzed them. Now hopefully that evens the scales of scorn and we can remember the nature of the OP and more particularly the 3 SOF Marines who were murdered.

    JJH -

    Quite right!
    I am not sure if you saw the 1 hour special during the Olympic coverage on NBC tonight by Tom Brokaw which dealt with the 27 months that Britain stood alone against the Germans. Great show with interviews with Dunkerque survivor, nurse who treated wounded from Dunkerque, RAF pilot from Battle of Britain, etc. Naration of documentary footage was, to a large degree, excerpts of Churchill speeches. Awesome show portraying the grit of the British people. Impressive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yank_Lurker View Post
    And the Japanese thought that after we lost 2,402 Americans at Pearl Harbor we'd sue for peace, because we'd not be willing to lose even more to avenge their loss.

    They were wrong.
    That has absolutely nothing to do with Afghanistan. Literally the only parallel you could draw from that would be the shock surrounding the event that kicked it off.

    Fact is, 3 blokes died and their families will now have to deal with that. There should be a very good reason for it and, emotional claptrap about Pearl Harbour and Bin Laden and world peace aside, there isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaDog View Post
    That has absolutely nothing to do with Afghanistan. Literally the only parallel you could draw from that would be the shock surrounding the event that kicked it off.

    Fact is, 3 blokes died and their families will now have to deal with that. There should be a very good reason for it and, emotional claptrap about Pearl Harbour and Bin Laden and world peace aside, there isn't.
    I thought we were supposed to be ceasing fire regarding the reasons--or lack thereof, depending upon your memory of the events of the last 12 years--for our presence in the 'Stan?
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    Well you can always rely on Littlejim to present a reasonable, unbiased opinion of any US themed topic.

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    It would be interesting to find out whether these victims were lured into a trap under false pretences as has been suggested or whether it was another case of a disgruntled Afghan individual (with no actual particular loyalty to EF) going ape shit at the wrong time. I believe similar incidents in the past have more often been a case of the savages reverting to type instead of any actual notion of carrying out a premeditated hit.
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    Get hell of the shit hole and let them sort their own mess out while getting high on the poppy shit. Pakistan and India can assisted China, Russia and Iran could send troops as peacekeepers? Blessing to the families of the USA Servicemen killed by a rouge nutter.

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    Carry on with this if you must but please keep it vaguely civil.
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    I thought we were in Afghanistan so the CIA could make shedloads of money off all the dope. I thought it was only children and church goers who believe its all about Bin Laden and AQ.. I must have got it all wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukethebootneck View Post
    I thought we were in Afghanistan so the CIA could make shedloads of money off all the dope. I thought it was only children and church goers who believe its all about Bin Laden and AQ.. I must have got it all wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBOC View Post
    JJH -

    Quite right!
    I am not sure if you saw the 1 hour special during the Olympic coverage on NBC tonight by Tom Brokaw which dealt with the 27 months that Britain stood alone against the Germans. Great show with interviews with Dunkerque survivor, nurse who treated wounded from Dunkerque, RAF pilot from Battle of Britain, etc. Naration of documentary footage was, to a large degree, excerpts of Churchill speeches. Awesome show portraying the grit of the British people. Impressive!
    And the scandalous insularity and moral cowardice by the USA in the opening years of WWII juxtaposes rather ironically with the screaming indignation of the Americans who cast doubt on the moral turpitude of anyone who doesn't join in with them on their crusade against an organisation that inflicted a tiny percentage of the damage done by the Germans. 9/11 was shocking but WE stood alone against the Nazis while the USA vacillated, so you'll excuse me if I roll my eyes at the Americans on occasion.
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