Discuss Critique of the way Marines are depicted in Avatar in US on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by longlivethequeen
Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead
Originally Posted by Gren
To the likes of you and me, and more or less the entire English speaking world, the yanks have and always will be ...
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Re: Critique of the way Marines are depicted in Avatar
Did well in Singapore did we?
Originally Posted by longlivethequeen Did well in the philippines did you? at least our Generals do not leg it on a PT boat. Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead Where to begin, where to begin.....I might humbly suggest you speak to some of your generation that was actually at risk in WWII to see what role the US played in resolving that small unpleasantness. Originally Posted by Gren
Also I am not sure of what history books you had studied but you might take a look at places like Yorktown in 1781, New Orleans in 1815, Khartoum in 1885, the Somme and Gallipoli (I realize this involved mainly ANZACs but the senior leadership and strategy was thoroughly British)in 1916 Singapore in 1941 in terms of British prowess at warfare if the standard of such things you apply in your post as applied to the US is used with the same force in evaluating various UK military adventures.
It seems to me that you are painting with far too wide a brush and demeaning the US military across the board for the relative success of Hollywood in portraying the US as it has (both good and bad) over the years. Cheers!
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- 29-01-2010, 15:30 #92
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With respect (and I defer readily to our ANZAC ARRSERs on this point), my understanding of the lingering hard feelings among some ANZACs about Gallipoli (and other campaigns such as the Boer War) is more to do with the British running things and not allowing ANZAC commanders at the higher levels to at least provide meaningful input as to how the op was planned and conducted. I believe there is some similar sentiment among the Canadians for example for places like Dieppe. Originally Posted by joey_deacons_lad Nope im saying the fighting and subsequent dying associated with it wasnt done mostly by Anzacs which is what some would have you believe Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead So what are you saying here? Are you contending the leadership that was involved in Gallipoli was competent because more Brits and French were KIA than ANZACs? Originally Posted by joey_deacons_lad "A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies, always followed by a dictatorship." Lord Thomas MacCauley 1857
- 29-01-2010, 15:43 #93
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The Army Rumour Service is THE British Army's unofficial community. A vast collection of information, humour and bullshit with forums, wiki, image library, blogs, kit shop, chat, jokes and more... Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead Although StickyEnd put is nicely, I would also point out that no one reached through the computer screen and grabbed you by the neck to force you to read the "septic forum" did they? :D Originally Posted by StickyEnd Assuming you are being serious. Originally Posted by Gren
I think this site is better for having septics and any other nations people on it. The more points of view the better (as a general rule*). Otherwise you might end up with just an echo chamber.
*BNP and other extremists being an exception.
Nor did we do likewise to get you here, so hence my question, if you dont like the abuse, do as my question.
Originally Posted by StickyEnd Assuming you are being serious. Originally Posted by Gren
I think this site is better for having septics and any other nations people on it. The more points of view the better (as a general rule*). Otherwise you might end up with just an echo chamber.
*BNP and other extremists being an exception.
Your one of Whets mates arent you?
Who actually gives a shite how the USMC are portrayed in a movie, that is like all other movies, in so much as, it will be looked at as actual reality by the US audiance regardless of the facts.
As per my initial response, the US won everything, beat everyone, saved the UK, regardless of reality.
So Fook the USMC and all who sail in her.D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.
Vegitarians? bunch of cnuts more like.
- 29-01-2010, 16:06 #94
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If you are serving, and if you have occasion to be in actual joint operations I think you will find your attitude may mature a bit. Originally Posted by Gren The Army Rumour Service is THE British Army's unofficial community. A vast collection of information, humour and bullshit with forums, wiki, image library, blogs, kit shop, chat, jokes and more... Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead Although StickyEnd put is nicely, I would also point out that no one reached through the computer screen and grabbed you by the neck to force you to read the "septic forum" did they? :D Originally Posted by StickyEnd Assuming you are being serious. Originally Posted by Gren
I think this site is better for having septics and any other nations people on it. The more points of view the better (as a general rule*). Otherwise you might end up with just an echo chamber.
*BNP and other extremists being an exception.
Nor did we do likewise to get you here, so hence my question, if you dont like the abuse, do as my question.
Originally Posted by StickyEnd Assuming you are being serious. Originally Posted by Gren
I think this site is better for having septics and any other nations people on it. The more points of view the better (as a general rule*). Otherwise you might end up with just an echo chamber.
*BNP and other extremists being an exception.
Your one of Whets mates arent you?
Who actually gives a shite how the USMC are portrayed in a movie, that is like all other movies, in so much as, it will be looked at as actual reality by the US audiance regardless of the facts.
As per my initial response, the US won everything, beat everyone, saved the UK, regardless of reality.
So Fook the USMC and all who sail in her."A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies, always followed by a dictatorship." Lord Thomas MacCauley 1857
- 29-01-2010, 16:12 #95
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Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead If you are serving, and if you have occasion to be in actual joint operations I think you will find your attitude may mature a bit. Originally Posted by Gren The Army Rumour Service is THE British Army's unofficial community. A vast collection of information, humour and bullshit with forums, wiki, image library, blogs, kit shop, chat, jokes and more... Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead Although StickyEnd put is nicely, I would also point out that no one reached through the computer screen and grabbed you by the neck to force you to read the "septic forum" did they? :D Originally Posted by StickyEnd Assuming you are being serious. Originally Posted by Gren
I think this site is better for having septics and any other nations people on it. The more points of view the better (as a general rule*). Otherwise you might end up with just an echo chamber.
*BNP and other extremists being an exception.
Nor did we do likewise to get you here, so hence my question, if you dont like the abuse, do as my question.
Originally Posted by StickyEnd Assuming you are being serious. Originally Posted by Gren
I think this site is better for having septics and any other nations people on it. The more points of view the better (as a general rule*). Otherwise you might end up with just an echo chamber.
*BNP and other extremists being an exception.
Your one of Whets mates arent you?
Who actually gives a shite how the USMC are portrayed in a movie, that is like all other movies, in so much as, it will be looked at as actual reality by the US audiance regardless of the facts.
As per my initial response, the US won everything, beat everyone, saved the UK, regardless of reality.
So Fook the USMC and all who sail in her.
May mature a bit? why, I speak as I find, and I find the USMC and the US forces in general, very gungho, very cowboyish, and very below the standards of the BAF.
Maturity has nothing to do with it.
I also look at history for the reality of it, not what Hollywood portrays, again, hence my reply.
I once met a US pilot, who asked me if we (the BAF) had Harriers (the jet) as well, he thought your lot invented them, where did he learn his history?
Just one of many reasons why I hold your lot in such low esteem.
But then, yallll saved us in I-rack and im sure you will in AFG, so what ho.D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.
Vegitarians? bunch of cnuts more like.
- 29-01-2010, 16:20 #96
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Just saw this--I suppose I actually like the abuse given the time I have spent on these forums and if you will take the time you will note that I do not generally shrink from debate when it is informed and at least reasonably respectful and substantive beyond the rather immature and unhelpful name calling. Originally Posted by Gren "A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies, always followed by a dictatorship." Lord Thomas MacCauley 1857
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Re: Critique of the way Marines are depicted in Avatar
Is name calling ever meant to be respectful?
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- 29-01-2010, 23:06 #98
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Well out of deference to chimpanzees we tend to call knuckle draggers monkies not orangatangs. Originally Posted by Northern Monkey Look at an infantryman's eyes and you can tell how much war he has seen.
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Re: Critique of the way Marines are depicted in Avatar
You still weeping on here coz Hollywood done the Corps bad in a film set in the future? Dry your eyes on that petticoat of yours! Originally Posted by jumpinjarhead Just saw this--I suppose I actually like the abuse given the time I have spent on these forums and if you will take the time you will note that I do not generally shrink from debate when it is informed and at least reasonably respectful and substantive beyond the rather immature and unhelpful name calling. Originally Posted by Gren
Seeing as you you don't like "rather immature and unhelpful name calling" I'll refain from asking if anyone's seen a clitirous without a cnut around here and send them in your direction! :D
- 30-01-2010, 00:28 #100
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