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    City & Guilds Accreditation of Military Experience

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    City & Guilds Accreditation for the Military

    City & Guilds Senior Awards provide a special accreditation structure for members of HM Armed Forces. The awards are available across all three services as well as for reserve forces personnel.

    About the Awards

    City & Guilds senior awards are distinguished qualifications which are recognised in both civilian and military worlds. As part of a continuing commitment by City & Guilds to providing formal recognition of military programmes we are now able to accredit military professional development with senior awards at three levels. Awards in leadership & management are available at the following levels:

    Licentiateship (LCGI)

    Comparable to a Foundation Degree academic level and at a supervisory/first line management skills level. This is available to:

    • Commissioned officers with a regular or special regular commission or officers with a reserve commission plus two years experience in post.
    • Petty Officers or Sergeants.

    Graduateship (GCGI)

    Comparable to an Honours Degree and suitable for those in middle management roles. This is available to:

    • Commissioned officers who have passed the promotion board to Lieutenant, Captain or Flight Lieutenant plus two years experience in post.
    • Chief Petty Officers, Staff Sergeants or Flight Sergeants plus two years experience in post.

    Membership (MCGI)

    Comparable to a Master's Degree and suitable for those in strategic management roles. This is available to:
    • Commissioned officers on promotion to the rank of Lieutenant Commander, Major or Squadron Leader plus two years experience in post.
    • Warrant Officers Class One or RAF Warrant Officers plus two years experience in post.

    As well as being used to accredit programmes at top military institutions such as the Royal Military College of Science and the Royal Military College Sandhurst, the awards are also used to blue-chip companies such as Waitrose as a way of accrediting management development programmes. They are also offered directly by 30 of the UK's leading universities, among them Bath, Leeds and Cardiff, and are recognised by many more.
    Hope this is of use. Retired personnel can apply up to two years after discharge…
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    Re: City & Guilds Accreditation of Military Experience

    There was a discussion on here last week where it was concluded that the 'award' was as much use as tits on a bull and a complete waste of money - £98 for a certificate that, in reality says nothing
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    Re: City & Guilds Accreditation of Military Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by AFA06
    There was a discussion on here last week where it was concluded that the 'award' was as much use as tits on a bull and a complete waste of money - £98 for a certificate that, in reality says nothing
    Oops-had a quick look on the site & missed the discussion.

    I've been asking round some friends in headhunting/recruitment & will post their thoughts...
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    Re: City & Guilds Accreditation of Military Experience

    However, it does look good on your CV. I have the MCGI, beats the shite out of putting your CLM pass on your CV and attempting to explain at interview what it is.
    On my latest job interview they knew exactly what the MCGI was, a lot of companies want to see certificated proof of the management skills that you will have gained during your time in the military, add your experiences on top of that and you are way ahead of those without either.

    Your call though, all it takes is a copy of your CV and a cheque, it may not help your quest for employment when you leave the forces, however, it might!

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    Re: City & Guilds Accreditation of Military Experience

    I'm thinking of applying for this.......... but it seems like you're getting something for nothing (ie..... no dissertation to submit etc), so it makes me a tad wary............... What if, at a job interview, they mention your C+G in management, and ask ''what did you have to do to get it''......... would the reply be ''sent a cheque and got the certificate''?
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    Re: City & Guilds Accreditation of Military Experience

    What did you have to do to get it? Refer to CV, this should reflect your management skills and experience, if it doesnt then more fool you, enjoy rejection.

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    Re: City & Guilds Accreditation of Military Experience

    fair point............ but I'm TA. I've checked and we can still apply for this accreditation, but I think it would look better backed up with a Reg cv, as opposed to a half civvi, half TA one........... especially if listing achievements........ ''I did exceptionally well on annual camp'' don't quite cut the mustard.

    Cheers for the reply though!
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    Cool City and Guilds Management Quals

    Quote Originally Posted by boneytone View Post
    fair point............ but I'm TA. I've checked and we can still apply for this accreditation, but I think it would look better backed up with a Reg cv, as opposed to a half civvi, half TA one........... especially if listing achievements........ ''I did exceptionally well on annual camp'' don't quite cut the mustard.

    Cheers for the reply though!
    I am a Warrant Officer Class 1 NRPS (75) and was a Master Driver, I had to show my CV, a 10,000 word dissertation for an Advanced Diploma in Logistics, had to be in post as an MD for 2yrs and attend an interview in London to get a LCGI, if you can get one higher MCGI without jumping through the hoops I did crack on buddy and sieze the moment, as replied to you before, it might not help but it might.... my feelings on that are it will help in competition against an equally qualified candidate who has No management qual, it ticks the box and costs a civvy 12x more than a squaddie Reg or TA.

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    oops soz it is a LCGI lol even lower lol

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    Looks like something dreamt up by a Labour 'focus goup', and ratified by a 'think tank'.
    A complete bunch of toss.
    I had one of those once. It was called a Red Book. Cost me fcuk all

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