Originally Posted by JoeCivvie

Going by the Spams' recent policy of adopting kit already in use by the British - like the GPMG and the Charlie G - I'm surprised that they aren't bringing this in:

When did they adopt the Charlie G??? I didn't think we were still using them either!

Originally Posted by DavidBOC

It is a bit unclear why the USN regard this as an improvement over the P3 Orion. The P3 has 4 times the range and significantly longer loiter time due to the P3's ability to shut down an engine to save fuel.

Could it have something to do with higher cruising speeds of the P8 vs the P3? Hence being able to cover larger areas in shorter time frames? Plus face it, the P3s are getting a bit long in tooth, their planned upgrade (P7) was cancelled sometime ago.

But it most certainly doesn't have the loitering capabilities of the P3, but BAMS might be filling in that role.

I have been racking my brain about it as well, ever since USN announced their plan a few years ago...

Originally Posted by Mav

When did they adopt the Charlie G??? I didn't think we were still using them either!

Ignore my last - google is my friend...

Shackletons? pfft.



Have learnt a new term though... 'Slideware'. like it lots.

Originally Posted by Mav

Ignore my last - google is my friend...

The current Charlie G is an impressive bit of kit - only about 2/3 of the weight of the old steel drainpipe, and with a useful array of rounds (HE, smoke, starshell, etc). I would have thought it would be a useful fire-power increment for current Herrick ops - bigger and better bullets than a 66, and a fraction of the cost per bang of a LAW or Javelin.

Originally Posted by 4(T)

The current Charlie G is an impressive bit of kit - only about 2/3 of the weight of the old steel drainpipe, and with a useful array of rounds (HE, smoke, starshell, etc). I would have thought it would be a useful fire-power increment for current Herrick ops - bigger and better bullets than a 66, and a fraction of the cost per bang of a LAW or Javelin.

I thought the LAW and 66 were the same thing?!

Originally Posted by chocolate_frog

Shackletons? pfft.



Have learnt a new term though... 'Slideware'. like it lots.

The Flying Hedgehog - now THAT's a plane. I actually saw this one on the Thames in the 80's Stunning. (BTW, If you haven't been, the RAF Museum at Hendon has a Sunderland that you can walk through).

Charlie G? Bollocks, I was about to post this link - Army Acquires Recoilless, Shoulder-Fired Weapon

Originally Posted by redshift

Well, apparently your money was used by the Indians to buy about 12 of these things, with options for 12 more.

Splashing out. Most just use a 747 and come straight into Heathrow.

On the range issue, why didn't they use a bigger aircraft with better endurance? same goes for Airbus, after all B737 and the A320 are nothing more than the aviation equivalent of buses.