ARmy Rumour SErvice

**This Tribe** · 22-06-2012, 10:46

Ok, the title of this thread is slightly disingenious but I notice that the General Officers Appointments notification slipped out the day after the latest redundancy announcement included the creation of two new 2* posts. Whilst I'm sure there has been no overall increase in numbers of Major-Generals, I'd question whether we really need a DG Transformation in AHQ (with associated staff I'm sure) and a Deputy Commander III (US) Corps? Announcing this on the day after several thousand people have been told that they have been made redundant also doesn't seem like a great decision either.

For those who missed it the (UNCLAS) letter is below:

GENERAL OFFICERS APPOINTMENTS

To be Director General Army Transformation, Army Headquarters, a new post, in the rank of Major General, in June 2012.
Brigadier K D Abraham (Late Royal Regiment of Artillery), currently Director Force Development, Army Headquarters.

To be General Officer Commanding 1st (United Kingdom) Armoured Division, in the rank of Major General, in succession to Major General J I Bashall CBE, in October 2012.
Brigadier J R Chiswell CBE MC (Late Parachute Regiment), currently Head of Overseas Operations, Ministry of Defence.

To be Chief of Staff Land Forces, Army Headquarters, in the rank of Major General, in succession to Major General D M Cullen OBE, in October 2012.
Brigadier T R Urch CBE (Late Corps of Royal Engineers), formerly Assistant Chief of Staff J3 Operations, Permanent Joint Headquarters (United Kingdom).

To be Deputy Commanding General III (United States) Corps, a new United Kingdom post, in January 2013.
Major General D M Cullen OBE (Late Royal Regiment of Artillery), currently Chief of Staff Land Forces.

To be General Officer Commanding Theatre Troops, in succession to Major General
S A Burley MBE, in March 2013.
Major General T B Radford DSO OBE (Late Light Infantry), currently Chief of Staff Headquarters International Security Assistance Force Joint Command - Afghanistan.

To be Assistant Chief of the General Staff, in succession to Major General J R Everard CBE, in April 2013.
Major General J G Lorimer DSO MBE (Late Parachute Regiment), currently General Officer Commanding 3rd (United Kingdom) Division.

To be General Officer Commanding 3rd (United Kingdom) Division, in the rank of Major General, in succession to Major General J G Lorimer DSO MBE, in April 2013.
Brigadier J M Cowan DSO OBE (Late Royal Regiment of Scotland), currently Head of Counter-Terrorism and United Kingdom Operations, Ministry of Defence.

To be Deputy Commander Land Forces (Reserves), in the rank of Major General, in succession to Major General His Grace the Duke of Westminster KG CB OBE TD CD DL, in May 2013.
Brigadier R T I Munro TD (Late Parachute Regiment (Volunteers)), currently Assistant Commander Support Command.

**CrashTestDummy** · 22-06-2012, 12:08

Can't say I'm surprised, senior officers are becoming more and more like politicians and the desire to create 'jobs for the boys' is stronger now than since the days of the Empire.

**beemer007** · 22-06-2012, 12:10

On the other hand there's more Admirals than ships..

**bigjimdangley** · 22-06-2012, 12:13

Someone told me that there are 63 men for every Brigadier or CS equivalent pay grade. Is this true? Or am I a gullible cunt?

**stabtoreg** · 22-06-2012, 13:02

Do you not think that the Future of the Army and it's integration with our major partner are worthy of leadership at general level? Should the two posts be LCpl ERE postings instead?

**Seadog** · 22-06-2012, 13:05

Originally Posted by bigjimdangley

Someone told me that there are 63 men for every Brigadier or CS equivalent pay grade. Is this true? Or am I a gullible cunt?

What kind of men? Where? At supermarket checkouts, in public toilets? Do you mean O/Rs?

As for more admirals than ships, by including HMS Victory and some decommissioned units, the Fleet is growing.

Desperate.

**Hobo-Ken** · 22-06-2012, 13:22

Originally Posted by stabtoreg

Do you not think that the Future of the Army and it's integration with our major partner are worthy of leadership at general level?

I'm sure they are. The question might be what 1*+ jobs are being discontinued? Or are these taking a 20% hit in line with the rest of the Army?

**Discovery001** · 22-06-2012, 13:37

I was at School with TJ Urch the new Chief of Staff Land Forces

**Bosscat** · 22-06-2012, 13:44

Originally Posted by bigjimdangley

Someone told me that there are 63 men for every Brigadier or CS equivalent pay grade. Is this true? Or am I a gullible cunt?

Gullible Cunt it's 64 men.

**stabtoreg** · 22-06-2012, 14:13

Originally Posted by Hobo-Ken

I'm sure they are. The question might be what 1*+ jobs are being discontinued? Or are these taking a 20% hit in line with the rest of the Army?

I don't know the figures, however I would hope not. It's one thing to cut a 10 year private, or a passed over major but different to cut 1*+ without serious thought. They after all cannot be easily replaced