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Discuss LOA trashed The final Morale Straw? in Strategic Defence & Spending Review 2010 on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by Outstanding Don't do B&H - Marlboro Light (you last 15mins longer!!) I agree with you, except of course that a number of folk will be forced to go and that might change ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Don't do B&H - Marlboro Light (you last 15mins longer!!) I agree with you, except of course that a number of folk will be forced to go and that might change the dynamic slightly. As for the future of the Army, it will all be in a newly independant Scotland!!
    Correct, in preparation for the war of independance, the future of a large part of the army is indeed Scotland, as a consequence of the simple straightforward reasoning, already outlined prior to the announcement of the basing review last July & as a result of the outright victory of the nationalists in the Scots election.

    I was being serious about, in principle, rebuilding Wade`s roads & re-establishing the garrisons at Fort William & Fort Augustus, the dispositions made in the July basing announcement amount to the same thing.

    With the anniversary of Bannockburn in 2014, Salmond & Cameron having now thrown down the gauntlet & eyeballing each other, the fear is, if they do not get a move on with drawdown from Germany, everyone will not be back in time to put down the uprising & quell the rebellious Scots.

    Ps. Prince Harry is in line to succeed to the title of the Duke of Cumberland.
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    Referendum far more appropriate in 2013, the anniversary of Flodden
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainPlume View Post
    Referendum far more appropriate in 2013, the anniversary of Flodden
    Oh well, in that case they can justify having two, in case the first referendum does not produce the desired result. It`s current EU policy & considered progressive thinking as politicians can now repeat the referendum question untill the people deliver up the right answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger-Monkey2 View Post
    It has happened before in the 80s. A single RSM went down to 11p per day. IIRC the CO of 17/21L resigned over it.
    Could you give his name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by school_for_scoundrels View Post
    Correct, in preparation for the war of independance, the future of a large part of the army is indeed Scotland, as a consequence of the simple straightforward reasoning, already outlined prior to the announcement of the basing review last July & as a result of the outright victory of the nationalists in the Scots election.

    I was being serious about, in principle, rebuilding Wade`s roads & re-establishing the garrisons at Fort William & Fort Augustus, the dispositions made in the July basing announcement amount to the same thing.

    With the anniversary of Bannockburn in 2014, Salmond & Cameron having now thrown down the gauntlet & eyeballing each other, the fear is, if they do not get a move on with drawdown from Germany, everyone will not be back in time to put down the uprising & quell the rebellious Scots.

    Ps. Prince Harry is in line to succeed to the title of the Duke of Cumberland.
    We could always get the lowland scots to fight the highland scots - it worked at culloden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    We could always get the lowland scots to fight the highland scots - it worked at culloden.
    Yes & the Welsh could be incited to rise up against the English & the Irish could send an army across to support them. I thought we had all been here quite some time ago, before a thing called the union flag & the united kingdom was supposed to have drawn a line under all this. But I forgot, the Irish have already bailed out, so why not everybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    it now appears that the whole ratonale for providing any LOA at all is being revisited..... only pay LOA where significant diffrences can be fully justified
    That was ALWAYS the criteria - to compensate for the additional costs of living overseas. The last LOA team seemed to think it cost more (I don't - after 6 weeks here I am enjoying the far better quality and standard of living, LOA here is GREAT) and the reduction will come, in part, of the misguided opinion of an ex-GOC who took umbridge with paying the travel costs from UK and, in return for having that included, had the 'buy-to-sell' component removed - big fail M2.

    The surge in the £ will cause a FFR increase and LOA reduction in Feb anyway - even more confusion ahead of April.

    Question - if Scotland goes independent will we get LOA there for a higher cost of living in a foreign country ? I'm told those string-vests, pint o' heavy and deep fried Mars Bars don't come cheap. At least the petrol should be cheaper, no tuition or prescription fees and free hospital parking - it is the place to serve................. I just need to attend the language course first
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    In due course, the Services will ahve to address the issue of loss of spousal income for accompanied personnel serving abroad. It is already addressed by other Gorvernment Departments - (FCO, DfID primarily) - and the Covenant does tip it's hat to this. However, I can also imagine that this will become divisive between single and married SP, as well as those who have long-term partners (but not married). This latter point has singled out the Services as reactionary and fuddy-duddy, although progress has been made in terms of ex-gratia payments to partners of deceased SP.

    The FCO had no problems providing high-quality housing for its staff and partners - as well as for DA staff - but laughed when the MOD used to read the Riot Act for non-married partners who accompanied the SP abroad - 'no medical care, no flights home, no assistance, un-person' etc. I know, because I had to brief out-bound DAs on this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agoodgrouping View Post
    Question - if Scotland goes independent will we get LOA there for a higher cost of living in a foreign country ? I'm told those string-vests, pint o' heavy and deep fried Mars Bars don't come cheap. At least the petrol should be cheaper, no tuition or prescription fees and free hospital parking - it is the place to serve...
    I shall be running a Forces Discount service. Just look out for the advert in the Sixth Sense @ Oct 2014. I will also be running the following language skills courses:

    1. "Whaturyoofuckinlookingat?" - 'Making friends' - Introduction to the Scots language Level 1 Pt1.

    2. "Yethievin'baztirdnowayisthatatenner!" - 'Going to the shops' - Introduction to the Scots Language Level 1 Pt2. A must for military spouses.

    3. "Ootsidenowyatube!" - 'Socialising in Scotland' - Introduction to the Scots Language Level 1 Pt 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    In due course, the Services will ahve to address the issue of loss of spousal income for accompanied personnel serving abroad. It is already addressed by other Gorvernment Departments - (FCO, DfID primarily) - and the Covenant does tip it's hat to this. However, I can also imagine that this will become divisive between single and married SP, as well as those who have long-term partners (but not married). This latter point has singled out the Services as reactionary and fuddy-duddy, although progress has been made in terms of ex-gratia payments to partners of deceased SP.

    The FCO had no problems providing high-quality housing for its staff and partners - as well as for DA staff - but laughed when the MOD used to read the Riot Act for non-married partners who accompanied the SP abroad - 'no medical care, no flights home, no assistance, un-person' etc. I know, because I had to brief out-bound DAs on this point.
    This will be a significant problem for those "lucky" many who get posted to scotland's new army bases, where both a lack of actual jobs and the obvious language barrier will constrain wives from employment in the community.

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