19 'Shite' Brigade

**thepatrolman** · 03-01-2006, 20:10

They have spent a great deal of money on accn in OsnabrÃ¼ck.

200 singleman rooms Z type accn last year.
refurbished all other singleman rooms.
upgradedl married quarters.

Cost ???? Anybodys guess.

**frankie** · 03-01-2006, 23:36

Originally Posted by thepatrolman

They have spent a great deal of money on accn in OsnabrÃ¼ck.

200 singleman rooms Z type accn last year.
refurbished all other singleman rooms.
upgradedl married quarters.

Cost ???? Anybodys guess.

Although there are other accom projects that have been put on hold until a firm decision has been made by the CoC as to the future of Munster/Osnabruck Garrison.

The real question is, if barracks are to be handed back to the Bundeswehr, will the MoD have to foot the bill to ensure all buildings are up to a reqd standard for handover?

**Storeman Norman** · 06-01-2006, 14:18

Originally Posted by frankie

Originally Posted by thepatrolman

They have spent a great deal of money on accn in OsnabrÃ¼ck.

200 singleman rooms Z type accn last year.
refurbished all other singleman rooms.
upgradedl married quarters.

Cost ???? Anybodys guess.

Although there are other accom projects that have been put on hold until a firm decision has been made by the CoC as to the future of Munster/Osnabruck Garrison.

The real question is, if barracks are to be handed back to the Bundeswehr, will the MoD have to foot the bill to ensure all buildings are up to a reqd standard for handover?

Whatever happens Osnabruck / Munster it will remain 'fit for purpose'. Troops and their families will still have to live in the place right up until the bitter end. However, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for any NEW investment (so that's the new 100m pool done for.....).

**MS_Rep** · 11-01-2006, 00:32

I heard a rumour that 19 is set to improve significantly under recent new leadership

Top Man!

But please don't quote me

**scots_wahey** · 26-02-2006, 13:19

New Comd 19 Bde is a top bloke and destined for bigger and better things. Rumour is he got 19 Bde because, having been COS 3XX, he knew all the issues and where the CoC wanted the focus to be. I would happily serve under him but in my experience it is the COS/DCOS that can be the problem.

**really?_fascinating** · 28-02-2006, 20:54

Why, what is the drama with them?

**scots_wahey** · 01-03-2006, 08:36

Not specifically in this case but SO3/SO2 level you inevitably work to COS/DCOS rather than the Comd. A good Comd can still have a nightmare COS who will have his sights firmly set on the PL and may not care what he has to do to get it.

**rabid spaniel** · 02-03-2006, 14:41

Originally Posted by scots_wahey

Not specifically in this case but SO3/SO2 level you inevitably work to COS/DCOS rather than the Comd. A good Comd can still have a nightmare COS who will have his sights firmly set on the PL and may not care what he has to do to get it.

And any good Comd will see straight through that and trip him up as he thinks his nose is across the line.

**The_Chancellor** · 04-03-2006, 19:07

Rest assured you are fine with COS 19 Bde. He's a good lad, top of his job, and the next DCOS will be announced on Mar 22 when Black Bag 06 comes out. He will either be a Returner fm RD or fm ACSC 9. Neither is perilously close to the PL, merely focused on TELIC 9 I should suspect.

**really?_fascinating** · 04-03-2006, 21:37

Is current DCOS a tube then? When does he finish?

**Outstanding** · 04-03-2006, 21:42

Originally Posted by thepatrolman

Its official. The mayor of osnabrÃ¼ck has anounced in todays newspaper that OsnabrÃ¼ck and MÃ¼nster will close by 2015. Funny that the powers to be are saying nothing.......... Anyone got any comments

Patrolman, I have been telling ARRSE this for at lesat 10 days - you know it as you also have been involved on thesame thread _ When will JHQ Close?

**wrinkles** · 11-03-2006, 12:06

Originally Posted by really?_fascinating

Is current DCOS a tube then? When does he finish?

No he is a good guy who takes not shiite from incompetants. You do your job and you are fine you screw up and you can kiss your aarse goodbye. This goes for all ranks not just green officers

**Outstanding** · 12-03-2006, 18:41

Originally Posted by wrinkles

Originally Posted by really?_fascinating

Is current DCOS a tube then? When does he finish?

No he is a good guy who takes not shiite from incompetants. You do your job and you are fine you screw up and you can kiss your aarse goodbye. This goes for all ranks not just green officers

And that style of management is good?

**quiet_teuchter** · 15-03-2006, 19:42

Originally Posted by Outstanding

And that style of management is good?

It certainly is not bad, robust maybe, but not bad.

**Bellthrob** · 15-03-2006, 21:56

Outstanding,

After reading a few of your (all too plenty) posts, I wonder whether or not you have ever served in military uniform. Robust leadership is exactly what is required at all levels and completely distinct from bullying. A good leader shouldn't care less whether he is liked or not, as long as he is respected. There is a huge difference.

Big Mac and fries, please.