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    Formula 1 2011.

    2009 Race Calender
    Australia - 29/03/09.
    Malaysia - 05/04/09.
    China - 19/04/09.
    Bahrain - 26/04/09.
    Spain - 10/05/09.
    Monaco - 24/05/09.
    Turkey - 07/06/09.
    Great Britain - 21/06/09.
    Germany - 12/07/09.
    Hungary - 26/07/09.
    Europe - 23/08/09.
    Belgium - 30/08/09.
    Italy - 13/09/09.
    Singapore - 27/09/09.
    Japan - 04/10/09.
    Brazil - 18/10/09.
    Abu Dhabi - 01/11/09.
    [hr]
    2009 Rule Changes
    Tyres
    After 10 seasons on grooved tyres, Formula One racing returns to slicks in 2009, as part of moves to increase the emphasis on mechanical rather than aerodynamic grip. With no grooves, grip will increase by around 20 percent, bringing a significant performance gain. However, that gain will be offset by the vastly reduced downforce levels of the revised aerodynamic regulations (see below). The overall effect should be reduced performance through high-speed corners. Drivers will still have the choice of two dry tyre compounds and will still have to use both compounds during a race.

    KERS
    From 2009 teams have the option of employing a Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) to boost their car’s performance. As its name implies, a KERS recovers the (normally wasted) kinetic energy generated by the car’s braking process. This energy is stored using a mechanical flywheel or an electrical battery and then made available to the driver, in set amounts per lap, via a ‘boost button’ on the steering wheel. Under the current regulations the power gain equates to around 80 horsepower, available for just under seven seconds per lap. This could be worth several tenths of a second in terms of lap time, but the weight and packaging of the system - and its impact on the car’s weight distribution - also have to be taken into account.

    Engines
    In a move designed to boost reliability still further, rev limits will be cut from 19,000 to 18,000 rpm and drivers must now use the same engine for three, rather than two, consecutive events. Teams will be limited to eight engines per season - eight for each race driver and an additional four for testing. Just one team - Renault - has been allowed to make performance modifications to their engine for 2009 in order to help equalise power outputs.

    Aerodynamics
    Along with slick tyres, this is the biggest area of change for 2009. Downforce will be dramatically reduced and the cars’ bodywork will appear much cleaner, thanks to new dimensional regulations that effectively outlaw extraneous items such as barge boards, winglets, turning vanes and chimneys.

    Other.
    Testing reduction (50%). Winner takes all, winner of the WDC will be the driver with most wins rather than most points. Race starting fuel loads, tyre specifications and refuelling data to be made public. McLaren and Ferrari to publish radio contact from/to their drivers to the public.
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    2009 Car Launches
    12/01/09 - Ferrari.


    15/01/09 - Toyota.


    16/01/09 - McLaren.


    17/01/09 - Renault.


    17/01/09 - Williams.


    20/01/09 - BMW.


    09/02/09 - Red Bull.


    28/02/09 - Force India.


    08/03/09 - Brawn GP.



    09/03/09 - Toro Rosso.

    [hr]
    2009 Test Results

    Barcelona
    Code:
    01 	 R. Barrichello	  Brawn GP	 BGP001	   1'18"926
    02 	 J. Button	  Brawn GP	 BGP001	   1'19"127
    03 	 N. Rosberg	  Williams	 FW31	   1'19"774
    04 	 T. Glock	  Toyota	 TF109	   1'20"091
    05 	 F. Massa	  Ferrari	 F60	   1'20"168
    06 	 R. Kubica	  BMW S.	 F1.09	   1'20"217
    07 	 K. Raikkonen	  Ferrari	 F60	   1'20"314
    08 	 N. Heidfeld	  BMW S.	 F1.09	   1'20"338
    09 	 S. Vettel	  Red Bull	 RB5	   1'20"576
    10 	 F. Alonso	  Renault	 R29	   1'20"664
    11 	 L. Hamilton	  McLaren	 MP4-24	   1'20"869
    12 	 K. Nakajima	  Williams	 FW31	   1'20"907
    13 	 J. Trulli	  Toyota	 TF109	   1'20"937
    14 	 S. Buemi	  Toro R.	 STR4	   1'21"013
    15 	 G. Fisichella	  F. India	 VJM02	   1'21"045
    16 	 M. Webber	  Red Bull	 RB5	   1'21"347
    17 	 S. Bourdais	  Toro R.	 STR4	   1'21"629
    18 	 N. Piquet Jr	  Renault	 R29	   1'21"662
    19 	 A. Sutil	  F. India	 VJM02	   1'21"834
    20 	 H. Kovalainen	  McLaren	 MP4-24	   1'21"991
    Jerez
    Code:
    01	 K. Nakajima	  Williams	 FW31	   1'17"494
    02 	 J. Button	  Brawn 	 BGP001	   1'17"844
    03 	 H. Kovalainen	  McLaren 	 MP4-24	   1'17"946
    04 	 N. Rosberg	  Williams	 FW31	   1'18"071
    05 	 F. Alonso	  Renault	 R29	   1'18"343
    06 	 N. Piquet Jr	  Renault	 R29	   1'18"382
    07 	 R. Barrichello	  Brawn   	 BGP001	   1'18"398
    08 	 S. Vettel	  Red Bull	 RB5	   1'19"055
    09 	 L. Hamilton	  McLaren	 MP4-24	   1'19"121
    10 	 T. Glock	  Toyota         TF109	   1'19"814
    11 	 N. Heidfeld	  BMW S.	 F1.09	   1'20"052
    12 	 F. Massa	  Ferrari	 F60	   1'20"238
    13 	 K. Raikkonen	  Ferrari	 F60	   1'20"250
    14 	 J. Trulli	  Toyota	 TF109	   1'20"540
    15 	 A. Sutil	  F. India	 VJM02	   1'20"621
    16 	 M. Webber	  Red Bull	 RB5	   1'20"894
    17 	 R. Kubica	  BMW S.	 F1.09	   1'21"069
    18 	 G. Fisichella	  F. India	 VJM02	   1'21"584
    19 	 S. Buemi	  Toro R.	 STR4	   -'--"---
    20 	 S. Bordais	  Toro R.	 STR4	   -'--"---
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    Last edited by Matty0001; 05-12-2010 at 01:27.

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    It all sounds good stuff, but I do wish they'd just stop pissing about with it. If they carry on, it'll turn into A1GP.

    Aren't they talking about no re-fuelling from the season after?

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Ferrari F60







    http://f60.ferrariworld.com/
    http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/1/8824.html
    http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44908

    F1 has just got ugly and that front wing is going to cause first corner chaos.

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairy_Fairy
    It all sounds good stuff, but I do wish they'd just stop pissing about with it. If they carry on, it'll turn into A1GP.

    Aren't they talking about no re-fuelling from the season after?
    Yeah, its rumoured that the ban will come into place in 2010. Not heard much of it though.

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    can someone explain to me the impact of the slick tyres vs wet weather performance? thought grooves were essential to dispel water in the wet...

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Fuck me, thats ugly.

    Cars used to look graceful and elegant. That F60 looks like its been knocked up by a load of 6th form cookery students.

    God knows what the rest will look like considering Ferrari tend to go the wop way of design over function too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    can someone explain to me the impact of the slick tyres vs wet weather performance? thought grooves were essential to dispel water in the wet...
    They will still use grooved wet tyres as before.
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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    can someone explain to me the impact of the slick tyres vs wet weather performance? thought grooves were essential to dispel water in the wet...
    Wah?
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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    [quote="The-Lord-Flasheart"]Fuck me, thats ugly.

    Cars used to look graceful and elegant. That F60 looks like its been knocked up by a load of 6th form cookery students.

    God knows what the rest will look like considering Ferrari tend to go the wop way of design over function too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    can someone explain to me the impact of the slick tyres vs wet weather performance? thought grooves were essential to dispel water in the wet...[/quote]

    They will still use grooved wet tyres as before.
    You wont see, as in Brazil, anyone staying out on slicks, with any moisture on the track.

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    This could be interesting if true;

    Kraut and Japs

    (Schumacher could be interested in buying Honda but with Ferrari engines)
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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Lord-Flasheart
    This could be interesting if true;

    Kraut and Japs

    (Schumacher could be interested in buying Honda but with Ferrari engines)
    Great, another team that will make sure McLaren dont make it out the first corner.

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty0001
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Lord-Flasheart
    This could be interesting if true;

    Kraut and Japs

    (Schumacher could be interested in buying Honda but with Ferrari engines)
    Great, another team that will make sure McLaren dont make it out the first corner.
    Force India, is now a Mclaren with a different paint job, with Sutil (who I rate), could be interesting?

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reversionary_Modes
    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    can someone explain to me the impact of the slick tyres vs wet weather performance? thought grooves were essential to dispel water in the wet...
    Wah?
    no, not a wah. just thought from reading it they were abandoning grooved tyres.

    nothing impossible in this sport... retained kinetic energy boosters?!? they'll have nitrous next

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    Quote Originally Posted by Reversionary_Modes
    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    can someone explain to me the impact of the slick tyres vs wet weather performance? thought grooves were essential to dispel water in the wet...
    Wah?
    no, not a wah. just thought from reading it they were abandoning grooved tyres.

    nothing impossible in this sport... retained kinetic energy boosters?!? they'll have nitrous next
    I've got a feeling KERS will be causing alot of errors this year, will be good to watch. :D

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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    Quote Originally Posted by Reversionary_Modes
    Quote Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached
    can someone explain to me the impact of the slick tyres vs wet weather performance? thought grooves were essential to dispel water in the wet...
    Wah?
    no, not a wah. just thought from reading it they were abandoning grooved tyres.

    nothing impossible in this sport... retained kinetic energy boosters?!? they'll have nitrous next
    OK, I'll bite, then.

    The grooves in the dry tyres had nothing to do with dispersing water, being cut around the circumference of the tyre in line with rotation & were intended purely to reduce cornering forces by reducing mechanical grip. Intermediate and wet tyres were used for rainy conditions, as I'm sure they will be in 2009.
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    Re: F1 2009 Car Launches.

    Anyone got any thoughts on how the year will go? I havent got a chuffin clue with the new rule changes. I just know the points will either be one sided or spread out and that wont even determine the winner with the new medal rules.
    I think we'll see BMW up there with Ferrari and McLaren, with how it looked last year and how hard they've being working on the 09 car.
    We'll see the return of a more dominant Renault since the change of rules work in their favour aswell as them being the only team with a brand new engine.
    Will be good to see how the other teams perform with more pressure and new drivers. As for the winner, i think we'll be able to see after the first race.

    Hamilton or Kubica, looks like World Champion 09 for me.

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