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    Repeal UK handgun ban?

    Indian women turn to firearms against threat of violence

    Indian women turn to firearms against threat of violence | World news | guardian.co.uk

    "Why should I be dependent on someone else, even my husband or the police, for my own safety? I should be independent"
    Why not in the UK? Should the handgun ban be repealed and licensed ownership of handguns permitted?

    Having been the victim of a robbery, assault and road rage in three different countries, I can attest to the fact that the police are useless in these instances. It is simply a matter of them not being there when the crime happens and when they do come, the deed is fait accompli and it is usually your word against the criminal's (if they catch him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndependentBoffin View Post
    Indian women turn to firearms against threat of violence

    Indian women turn to firearms against threat of violence | World news | guardian.co.uk



    Why not in the UK? Should the handgun ban be repealed and licensed ownership of handguns permitted?

    Having been the victim of a robbery, assault and road rage in three different countries, I can attest to the fact that the police are useless in these instances. It is simply a matter of them not being there when the crime happens and when they do come, the deed is fait accompli and it is usually your word against the criminal's (if they catch him).
    Pointless poll, it'll never happen. Petrol prices never go back down once they go up and the UK government will never give back something it has already taken away. Besides handguns are evil and we'd all be out slaughtering schoolkids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance View Post
    Pointless poll, it'll never happen. Petrol prices never go back down once they go up and the UK government will never give back something it has already taken away. Besides handguns are evil and we'd all be out slaughtering schoolkids.
    TBH, some bloody deserve it!
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    I've long approved of repealing the handgun ban. Entirely separately from the issue of home defence - which is something a bit too dangerous to base an argument on, given valid questions of competence of the wielder -it remains the case that there is absolutely no correlation between the introduction of the handgun ban and a reduction of crime - gun crime actually rose every year for eight years following it. If it serves no purpose, why persist with it? It needlessly demonised harmless sportsmen. The only lasting objection seems to come from the more infantile sort of lefty terrified that he might catch The Redneck off those horrid smelly Americans, and that sort of bleating we can tune out.

    Fun Fact for Fact Fans: Handgun ownership remains legal in Northern Ireland. In 2011, despite the legacy of decades of sectarian violence, the murder rate in the province was lower than that of Scotland.
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    What's the point? It's not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redshift View Post
    What's the point? It's not going to happen.
    With all due respect, it won't happen if attitudes like this persist. Where there is a will, there is a way.

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    Never going to happen,because the powers that be,along with organisations with a vested interest in banning firearms of all kinds,fail to grasp one simple fact,firearms are inanimate objects,it's the twat on the blunt end that causes the problem.

    Why not ban crossbows,longbows,cricket bats,tennis racquets,even croquet mallets,these are all as deadly as a firearm in the wrong hands,and are classed as okay by the fuckwits that impose ever more draconion measures,on responsible shooters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deltaecho View Post
    I've long approved of repealing the handgun ban. Entirely separately from the issue of home defence - which is something a bit too dangerous to base an argument on, given valid questions of competence of the wielder -it remains the case that there is absolutely no correlation between the introduction of the handgun ban and a reduction of crime - gun crime actually rose every year for eight years following it. If it serves no purpose, why persist with it? It needlessly demonised harmless sportsmen. The only lasting objection seems to come from the more infantile sort of lefty terrified that he might catch The Redneck off those horrid smelly Americans, and that sort of bleating we can tune out.

    Fun Fact for Fact Fans: Handgun ownership remains legal in Northern Ireland. In 2011, despite the legacy of decades of sectarian violence, the murder rate in the province was lower than that of Scotland.
    Indeed.

    BBC News | UK | Handgun crime 'up' despite ban

    A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltaecho View Post
    It needlessly demonised harmless sportsmen.
    And the sporting uses of a handgun are what exactly?

    You can bugger about with them in the same way you can race lawn mowers, but handguns are designed purely and simply to kill people at close range.

    Shotguns, deer rifles, .22 vermin control etc are a different matter but hand guns? Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    You can bugger about with them in the same way you can race lawn mowers, but handguns are designed purely and simply to kill people at close range.
    Yes but sometimes there is a legitimate need to kill someone at close range in self-defence.

    If your wife was under threat of rape would you say she had legitimate cause to use lethal force to defend herself?

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